Amp babble

arnoroth661 · #1 08-24-2007, 09:28 PM

I've come to the conclusion that 65watts is sufficient when playing with a drummer alone. How 65watts would work out with another guitarist, a bassist, and possibly a keyboardist is beyond me; It's really just my drummer friend and I practicing and messing around. My drummer friend sticks to harder genres; metal (mostly) and many of its subgenres to be specific. The only time his sound overcomes mine is when his china symbol comes into play. Then again, I only have my amp cranked to 5 volume.

I guess what I'm getting at is... What size of amp/wattage do you find sufficient for gigging/practice with other musicians?

Phishphood42 · #2 08-24-2007, 09:40 PM

50-100 watts is pretty much the same volume wise. The difference is in feel and response

alex10 · #3 08-24-2007, 09:40 PM

More watts dosen't nesecarily mean the amp will be louder

alex10 · #4 08-24-2007, 09:41 PM

Damn you Phishphood42

arnoroth661 · #5 08-24-2007, 09:50 PM

I talked to my old physics teacher... Decibal output is logarithmically (spellcheck?) related to wattage. In other words... a 50 watt amp is twice as loud as a 5 watt amp.

arnoroth661 · #6 08-24-2007, 09:53 PM

Well, then it's back to the quest for a 1x12 combo amp... Haven't decided if I want a tube or SS amp yet... Sitting on the fence is a good description of my situation.

Wild_Child · #7 08-24-2007, 09:58 PM

Your speaker(s) will have a greater impact on volume than how high your amp's wattage is. Those are the things pushing the air.

The more/bigger your speakers are, the louder you'll be!

alex10 · #8 08-24-2007, 09:59 PM

How about a Laney LC50-II?

arnoroth661 · #9 08-24-2007, 10:00 PM

Ah, another option. Retrofit my Crate GFX-65T with a better speaker.. Celestion perhaps. I have to decide if i like the SS's tone first.

Wild_Child · #10 08-24-2007, 10:02 PM

Or connect it to a seperate 2x12 cab. That'll put you well on your way.

arnoroth661 · #11 08-24-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alex10

How about a Laney LC50-II?

I would love to try out a laney! Paul Gilbert and my favorite, Opeth, make it sound so appealing... Shame I'm in the U.S... Closest Laney dealer to me is in witchita falls, TX. Quite a drive.

arnoroth661 · #12 08-24-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild_Child

Or connect it to a seperate 2x12 cab. That'll put you well on your way.

I believe the next upgrade I get in the amplification section will be a new amp... See, the combo I have now was a cheapo at a pawnshop ($200 I believe.). I've gotten my $200 out of it several times.. It's just time to move onto better things.

Phishphood42 · #13 08-24-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by arnoroth661

I talked to my old physics teacher... Decibal output is logarithmically (spellcheck?) related to wattage. In other words... a 50 watt amp is twice as loud as a 5 watt amp.

He speaks the truth

Wild_Child · #14 08-24-2007, 10:12 PM

I'm just throwing ideas at you. If you decide you like the sound of your amp, 2x12's can be picked up for pretty cheap (compaired to buying an entirely new combo)

Funnily enough, I just bought a Laney GH50L which is the same series Gilbert and Mikael Akerfeldt use. I fell in love with Mikael's lead tone after I saw their live DVD and just had to have one. He uses the GH100L of course, but as has been said, 50 watts is more than enough for most live venues with 4x12s. It'll get to valve overdrive easier too which is a plus for me.