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Old 02-06-2004, 11:41 AM
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Behringer Ultra-G GI100


Is anyone familiar with these? I'm looking to go direct from my amp through the Ultra-G. The amp is a Mesa 50/50 (1x8 or 2x4 ohms), but the Ultra-G manual says that "you can feed the console from the loudspeaker output of an amlifier with a power rating of up to 3,000 watts (4 ohm) without overloading the Ultra-G." (I know I have to run a speaker from the Ultra-G to avoid amp damage.) Am I going to run into problems here?
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:43 PM
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Looks like a very interesting product, and it's relatively inexpensive, too. I don't think i've seen a DI box that goes between a power amp and the cabinet before. Could be very useful.

What kinds of "problems" were you thinking you might run into?
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:41 PM
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Can't the redbox take a speaker out? Like you said, neither substitutes for a load. I have the Allan Holdsworth juice extractor that will take speaker outs, and it can "be" the load too, like a soak unit. But then it has parametric EQ and some preset switchable cab simulations. You can find them sort of cheap now. But if you need two for stereo it would get expensive. I like the switchable sounds though. One of my beefs with a simulator is that when you get it to where you like it for overdrive, it usually "nasals" up the clean. If you set it for a rich clean sound then the fizzle comes back a little on the distortion. And a preset "4x12" one is usually somewhere in between. An actual speaker and mic has more flexibility between these sounds because the prominent frequencies are fighting for the same "space" out your speaker, so in overdrive, the fatness will "out do" the fizzle, but for clean, those sparkly highs get to come out. A PA cab with a horn or a bi/tri amped system gives a flat response, and it's up to the simulator to get it right. With the Holdsworth you can switch between the two sims, switch to flat, and bypass the parametric.
Direct is okay so long as you're not so "heady" about your tone. I mean we all know its not the real thing but is it "good enough?" All I'm saying with my huge rant is that if you don't like the sound of the Ultra G don't give up on the idea.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:38 PM
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What kinds of "problems" were you thinking you might run into?
I'm running the amp and cab at 8 ohms, but the manual says the DI tops out at 3,000 watts (4 ohms). I guess I'm not sure what that means, and I don't understand ohms that well. I'm concerned that the 4 ohm limit is going to be a problem with my 8 ohm set up.

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Direct is okay so long as you're not so "heady" about your tone.
Direct is definitely not my preference. I've already picked up the DI, so I'm going to give it a shot. They also will let me try mic'ing the amp, so if I don't like the DI, I'll run out and buy a SM57 and a mic stand.
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Old 02-06-2004, 07:53 PM
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A lot of people b*tch about behringer chucking out crap, but i honestly can say, for the money, they make some awseome stuff (especially if the bass head 3000t is anything to go by).
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Old 02-07-2004, 01:56 PM
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A lot of people b*tch about behringer chucking out crap, but i honestly can say, for the money, they make some awseome stuff (especially if the bass head 3000t is anything to go by).
A little off topic, but I agree 100%. My Behringer 412 cab & midi footcontroller are top notch!
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