(Don't tell me you weren't expecting that one.....)
Here's what I have in my rig:
Guitar-
Bad Horsie
Boss DS-1
WH-2 (Whammy)
Flanger
Boss AC-2 (Acoustic Simulator)
Volume pedal
Effects Loop:
Alesis 3630 Compressor/Gate/Limiter
Digitech 1900 Rack unit
At school I play in a couple different jazz bands, at my drummer's, I play in a progressive metal band, and at the same time I play in a hardcore progressive band. I've yet to come across a moment where I haven't been able to get a sound I'm looking for.
I'd go for a wah, an overdrive pedal for a little more sustain, a whammy (If your into it), and then maybe a TC Electronics D-Two (Or some other decent multi-effects unit that will take care of chorus, flange, delay, reverb..etc).
A nice little MIDI switcher to go along, and your all set.
Since your already in the Line6 Camp...
Why not get a Pod Pro and a couple of Tech21 PE60.
Then just pick out your favorite effects unit and throw it in the loop.
I have gotten some positive feedback about the Legacy, but also something that I am quite concerned about is the volume at which it will sound good. I can't blow out my kids' ears you know!
I've gone the POD route, but didn't like it. Even thought about the Power Engines too.
I would love a Legacy I think? The reason I haven't got one is I haven't even seen one in person. With Carvin selling factory direct, no-one will bring anything in to a music store so I can't try it out. I've got Carvin cab's right now that I bought when music stores were carrying them and they are totally amazing!!! I love them but I just don't want to spend a bunch of cash and then find out I don't like the Legacy. Does anyone know if anyone in Western Canada (preferably Alberta) stocks any Carvin gear or has a Legacy? I'd love to try one!
Jeremy
The Legacy sounds seriously good at low volume. I just recorded "jibbob" on "1". You may dislike the way I set up my tone, but you have to admit that it sounds like it's cranked. The tone bank really changes the way the gain responds… It's a really cool amp.
IMO, what you hear on Ultrazone is what you get plugged straight into it.
Amps are a tough decision though. Many sound great now-days. The Legacy is cheaper than most.
Maybe its because I've never had the pleasure of owning as much equipment as most of the people here, but personally I think it depends on what effects you use. I've messed around with 8-9 pedals at once, multiFX units, etc. but nowadays I'm running a distortion, chorus, delay, a wah, and my amp footswitch. Since you're a "grownup" with a more flexible budget than me, I would suggest going for the Legacy, which is good reviews everywhere....and getting a few high quality pedals or rack effects to complement.
Your call -- I don't know enough about what you play to make a more specific suggestion.
Did you ever change the tubes to get your Legacy to sound that good? It certainly didn't sound like that when I owned it ...all in the fingers I'm sure, but I think you have great tone.
That said, I think the Legacy is a tremendous amp for the price. Although when I owned one it certainly needed to be cranked to sound good. Volume could be a concern for the home user, unless you're Bob Oakman
This one was Dave's… and no they are still whatever tubes you had in it.
Amps always sound weird when I play them. It's probably the way I choke the pick. But there's one more sneaky thing to consider. Here's the skinny…
Presence-6, Treble-7, Mid-6, Bass-8, Drive(Gain)-7, Master Volume-1. The trick ingredient is the little Boss GE-7, stomp box EQ. I push the mids up just a hair and boost level about a notch above normal. That way when I bypass I get a milder gain… the Rockin'-Blues type sound. The amp still has a ton of sustain and tone though.
Dave, If you ever have more Legacy's to sell give me a holler. :biggrin:
Is it possible to also get a scooped heavy metal sound with the legacy and a GE-7 thrown in the loop? I love the lead tone, but I also play a lot of metal, so i was just wondering.
Kirk, I just got my legacy last week and I like the amp a great deal. At lower volumes, the lead channel is good for bluesy sounding stuff. Not really distortion, more like a mild overdrive. You can put something that will boost the level (like Bob did, I use a DS1 in front of the lead channel and it sounds pretty good to me). But this amp gets very loud. More than 4 or 5 is too loud for "around the house" playing. I really want to take it outside or to a large room and just crank it to see what it sounds like when it's completely wide open.
While we are on the topic, now that Carvin aren't supplying the Greenbacks with the Legacy anymore and are using Vintage 30's or something, what effect does this have on the amp's tone?
Quote: from Cory Bottone on 11:38 pm on Feb. 7, 2001
Is it possible to also get a scooped heavy metal sound with the legacy and a GE-7 thrown in the loop? I love the lead tone, but I also play a lot of metal, so i was just wondering.
Nope. Me and Bill had my Rivera and his Legacy side by side. Try as you might, you cannot scoop it. I don't think that was it's intention however. It's got a beautiful singing lead tone (which is 90% of Vai's gig so it makes sense) but it doesn't have that thick chunk rythem sound.
id have to disagree.....i think you can scoop out any amp with a ge-7....ive done it on a budda, bogner and an egnater succesfully.....and the bogners are mid heavy and it still sounded scooped(like crap)
I own a Legacy. The mids scoop alright. The mid control has a wide range of cut/boost, but the lack of that "chunky" sound makes it difficult to get the tone that scooping is attempting to accomplish. So… I agree with both points of view. From a certain perspective, that is. The mids on the Legacy profoundly affect the amount of gain that is possible. You can almost eliminate mids, but the lack of gain on the remaining frequencies makes it impossible to get much more than a Vai like tone.
My guess is that the Legacy relies on the mids more for it's overdrive. That's great for a certain style and probably by design, but not recommended for a hardcore gain tone.
Jeffrey, that Rivera monster you have is awesome. I loved my Legacy until you came around with that thing. Whad'ya have to go and do that for? :biggrin:
Quote: from bob oakman on 11:10 am on Aug. 7, 2001
I own a Legacy. The mids scoop alright. The mid control has a wide range of cut/boost, but the lack of that "chunky" sound makes it difficult to get the tone that scooping is attempting to accomplish. So… I agree with both points of view. From a certain perspective, that is. The mids on the Legacy profoundly affect the amount of gain that is possible. You can almost eliminate mids, but the lack of gain on the remaining frequencies makes it impossible to get much more than a Vai like tone.
My guess is that the Legacy relies on the mids more for it's overdrive. That's great for a certain style and probably by design, but not recommended for a hardcore gain tone.
Jeffrey, that Rivera monster you have is awesome. I loved my Legacy until you came around with that thing. Whad'ya have to go and do that for? :biggrin:
I'm starting to realize more and more what a steal that thing was for $300 used in a guitar shop.
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