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Old 03-26-2006, 11:29 PM
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Do they make a Tube product that does the following


Ok I dont know what to exactly call this, but I believe its made so here we go.

Its basically a pedal with a tube inside it, but it does nothing more than warm up your tone, so its not really a preamp since there is no tweakable parameters, its just takes your signal runs it thru the tube and out to your amp.

I remember seeing on in a catalog just cant remember who it was made by or what catalog it was in..

Thanks guys/gals/weirdos

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Old 03-27-2006, 12:15 AM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


Absolutely. You'd be amazed how many there are. To start this thread i will throw out my two favorites. First the Tonebone series. These are plenty cool and not too expensive. My forever all time favorite is the Mesa Boogie V-Twin pedal. Sadly these are not available anymore. But i used to use one set low to warm up my preamp tone. Who else has one to throw in. Joshua
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Old 03-27-2006, 09:38 AM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


the tone bone and the v-twin are both preamp/distortion pedals

this was 100% pure pass thru.. not a single knob on it.. it just took your signal and ran it thru the tube with out altering your tone.
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:11 AM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


VHt Valvulator?
http://www.vhtamp.com/product-news/valvulator1.html
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:12 AM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


Yes, the Valvulator sounds close, It's a buffer with a single tube and no tweakable parameters. But... it might not do exactly what you have in mind. It adds highs back to the signal that are normally lost due to long cord runs, pedals that deteriorate the tone, and other issues. When I got mine, my first reaction was that my sound got way brighter. But that's actually a good thing -- what you're hearing is the full range of frequencies that were formerly lost. We normally compensate by cranking up the treble on the amp or other tweaks. A little EQing, and you'll really appreciate the change. In the Guitar Player review from 3-4 years ago, the reviewer said something like "it's the closest thing to a magic box that I've seen in years..."
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Old 03-27-2006, 12:51 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


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Its basically a pedal with a tube inside it, but it does nothing more than warm up your tone, so its not really a preamp since there is no tweakable parameters, its just takes your signal runs it thru the tube and out to your amp.
Brett
Ok here's my recommendation, it's not the pedal you're describing, but try it out and I'm sure you will love it. It does not have a tube in it, but man it sounds amazing. The Xotic Effects RC Booster. Try one out you won't regret it, or maybe you will because you just might end up buying one.

I went over to my local dealer's place with the intention of buying a delay pedal, I got an RC Booster instead. With the RC you get a gain, volume and extremely responsive bass and treble controls. The pedal does exactly as it says just pure boost, no coloration of tone whatsoever.

Run it on a nice dist rhythm channel kick it on and you're in lead heaven.

Run it on a clean channel and you'll be rewarded with Extremely responsive, touch sensitive tones, just like a great tube amp.

I own the tonebone as well, but one thing I don't like about tube driven pedals....bridge pickups sound amazing, neck pickup don't work so well, especially the case with humbuckers. I use the RC Booster with my tonebone as well as dist channels of my amp and other dist pedals...Great tones man.

This is their website...
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/

Check out some of the video demos...especially the ones with Scott Henderson.
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/

Christopher.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


ok maybe im not describing its intentions the best.

I want to use it to smooth out the fizziness of my podxt

not as a distortion, boost, tone shaping.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:39 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


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ok maybe im not describing its intentions the best.

I want to use it to smooth out the fizziness of my podxt

not as a distortion, boost, tone shaping.
I've never tried it myself, but I've always thought about getting something like the Behringer Tube Ultragain MIC 100 (or 200) preamp for just the same purpose:

http://www.music-123.com/Behringer-T...-i106767.music

I'm not sure if it would be best to put it between the guitar and the POD, or between the POD and the poweramp/soundcard.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:48 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


To take out the fizziness, which is digital degradation of the high end from the sampling rate, you want something analog, tube-y is better, between the POD and the soundcard. A tube compressor would probably work well, or better, a tube mic preamp would be the best choice. ART used to make a Tube MP which was a small single channel mic pre that would fit your bill, of course, if you are recording in stereo, you'll want 2.
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Old 03-27-2006, 02:13 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


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ok maybe im not describing its intentions the best.

I want to use it to smooth out the fizziness of my podxt

not as a distortion, boost, tone shaping.
From my experience, combining any pedals, analog or digital, with a POD is not really a good idea. They just don't sound good together.

Perhaps you can look into some sort of digital plugin whereby which you can edit your clips.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:13 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


I would 2nd the tube compressor idea, a little analog preamp, just subtract a little gain from your pod and add it back in slightly with a preamp pedal to get your same sound but lose some of the digital problems.
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:23 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


I have an old Chandler tube driver which is a pedal with a single 12AX7 in it. Later someone bought the Tube Driver out, and maybe someone else even bought it off them. Ibanez may have owned it at one time and might still, I'm not sure, but they do still make them.

There is also the Soldano Supercharger which is supposed to be the first two preamp tubes in a SLO 100. I really want to try one of them with my Major. If anyone has any experience with them, let me know. I've heard they have a nasty hum and Mr. Soldano said it's 60 cycle hum and to plug it into another circuit and that should take care of it, but I'm not sure if that even removes all of it.
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Old 03-28-2006, 01:48 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


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ok maybe im not describing its intentions the best.

I want to use it to smooth out the fizziness of my podxt

not as a distortion, boost, tone shaping.
I'm a TOTAL tube snob, and even I have to say that if what you're looking to do is smooth out the fizziness in a Pot XT, adding a tube to the front end is probably not the best way to go about it.

You COULD try using a recording-specific tube preamp set for no gain boost or cut out front - a guy I know is quite fond of a Presonus, I think Blue Tube pre as a buffer in front of his Chameleon while recording - but really what I'd focus on is either tweaking your patches, specifically post-EQ (i think you have both pre and post EQ's, right?) settings, or possibly adding an EQ pedal. Maybe a touch less gain and a little more compression would help too.

There's nothing "magical" about tubes that improves tone just by having one in your signal path - try tweaking your settings, and if that won't do it, then maybe you should look into a different preamp other than a Line6, as there's a ton of modeling alternatives on the market (personally, I find both Mesa models and the Blackface model on the J-Station, when run through 1x12 cabs, the most organic-feeling modelers I've ever tried).
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:51 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


well I have heard about 20 or so people use a tube to remove fizziness from the pod with success. now getting them to give up the secret weapon seems to be more a issue.

Im not asking for it to turn my tone to gold, just remove some of the harshness of a digital product.
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:33 PM
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Re: Do they make a Tube product that does the following


If you put the tube in front of the pod, that thing will just shred any tone the tube gives you completely to pieces. You'd be better off to put a tube thingy in the pod's FX loop (if the pod has one) or use a tube poweramp after the pod.

I believe I've also seen outboard soundcard input devices with tubes in it.

But to be fair, you have a pod, you don't like the harshness of the sound, so trade it for something similar but with a proper tube frontend or with better tube modelling.
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