Highest Gain Amp?

twooos · #1 07-11-2007, 01:12 PM

hey guys, sorry im obsessed about knowing the extremeties of everything (RE: my pickup thread).

so what is the highest gain amp?

Power, volume, quality of distortion e.t.c

jemplayer55 · #2 07-11-2007, 01:30 PM

What kinda amp do you have now?

shogun · #3 07-11-2007, 02:40 PM

fender deville

yoyo1299 · #4 07-11-2007, 03:11 PM

VHT have very high gain

Rocker1 · #5 07-11-2007, 03:24 PM

EVH 5150 3 or a rectifier

racerevlon · #6 07-11-2007, 03:43 PM

A Diezel VH 4 is probably darned close to the top, if not at the top.

Silverburst · #7 07-11-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shogun

fender deville

uh ? what is high gain about that amp ?

Clint Fastfood · #8 07-11-2007, 05:42 PM

How about Krank Amps?

Ki swordsman · #9 07-11-2007, 08:32 PM

most players including vai and many shredders and metal bands actually don't play with rediculously high gain. most high gain amps also sound better NOT with the gain knob up full and that's how they're designed..
just food for thought....

David McCarroll · #10 07-11-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki swordsman

most players including vai and many shredders and metal bands actually don't play with rediculously high gain. most high gain amps also sound better NOT with the gain knob up full and that's how they're designed..
just food for thought....

Very good advice Mr Ki.

High gain eventually becomes indistinguishable from fuzz. Okay, if you wanna plat Sepultura stuff that might be fine, but if you actually listen to players with great tone (and I'm not saying you have to be in love with their playing, just their tone), such as SRV, Angus Young, Robben Ford, Chris Duarte, Kenny Wayne Shepherd and so on, none of them use enormously high gain - they just play REALLY LOUD.

I don't know if anyone else here shares this view, but I still think EVH's tone was superb on the first few albums when he used an old Marshall Plexi, but got progressively thinner and buzzier as he switched to the 5150s.

I use a Mesa Boogie TriAxis/Stereo 2:90 - I don't play metal, but the highest gain channels (Lead 1&2 Red) are unuseable for me, and the other lead channels just sound ridiculously over the top with the gain set anywhere over 3.5 - but with lower gain settings and serious volume, a Les Paul or PRS through this amp is just an absolutely cooking sound.

So, back to you - what do you actually need the highest gain amp on the market for?

southpaw_lefty · #11 07-11-2007, 09:08 PM

Nigel Tufnel's amps go to "11"

So, I would pick those.

twooos · #12 07-12-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David McCarroll

Very good advice Mr Ki.

High gain eventually becomes indistinguishable from fuzz. Okay, if you wanna plat Sepultura stuff that might be fine, but if you actually listen to players with great tone (and I'm not saying you have to be in love with their playing, just their tone), such as SRV, Angus Young, Robben Ford, Chris Duarte, Kenny Wayne Shepherd and so on, none of them use enormously high gain - they just play REALLY LOUD.

I don't know if anyone else here shares this view, but I still think EVH's tone was superb on the first few albums when he used an old Marshall Plexi, but got progressively thinner and buzzier as he switched to the 5150s.

I use a Mesa Boogie TriAxis/Stereo 2:90 - I don't play metal, but the highest gain channels (Lead 1&2 Red) are unuseable for me, and the other lead channels just sound ridiculously over the top with the gain set anywhere over 3.5 - but with lower gain settings and serious volume, a Les Paul or PRS through this amp is just an absolutely cooking sound.

So, back to you - what do you actually need the highest gain amp on the market for?

I was just wondering...

And for the guy who asked what amp im using now, its a Marshall Acoustic AS50r.

toshiro · #13 07-12-2007, 09:34 PM

I dunno how many gain stages the 5150 III has, but the original(now renamed 6505) has 6, and was the highest at the time. For most the gain knob is unusable above 6-7.

BTW, Sepultura's tone on Arise rules.

LonePhantom · #14 07-12-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by southpaw_lefty

Nigel Tufnel's amps go to "11"

So, I would pick those.

Don't forget his new amps go to infinity!

Check out the Live Earth stuff they did.

Salamander In The Sun · #15 07-12-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by toshiro

I dunno how many gain stages the 5150 III has, but the original(now renamed 6505) has 6, and was the highest at the time. For most the gain knob is unusable above 6-7.

BTW, Sepultura's tone on Arise rules.

Finally, somebody who acknowledges Sepultura! Derrick Green sucks, but when they had Cavalera, they ruled so hard.

If I had to suggest a high gain amp, it'd probably be a Bogner Uberschall.