JMP1?? Chameleon?? ADA MP1?? - Help what pre-amp must i buy?

NoiseAngel · #1 10-01-2001, 10:03 AM

i was surffing in the net... and looking for information about Marshall JMP1 and the Valvestate 80X80....

i play guitar for like 10 years but I used Multieffects like KorgAX and Digitech and stuff...
i'm into Heavy Speed Guitar...
maybe like you...
but I need something good for other sounds too!!!
I play in a Cover Band too...

now i wanna have a rack system....
i was thinking about the JMP1 and valv. 80X80 together....

What do you think???
do you know some online help for JMP 1 users???

and i was *thinking about a rocktron Chameleon
for the Effects, the Hursh, Cab-sim. and becuse it has a nice Pre-amp too!!!
Do you know it???

What is the difference bewteen:
Chameleon;
Chameleon2000;
Chameleon On_line??????????

Or mybe

ADA mp1... Nuno/Gilbert

Thanks alot.

NOISE from
Germany

Shane Regal · #2 10-01-2001, 11:53 PM

I've had them all: Marshall JMP-1, Mesa Triaxis, Rocktron Chameleon, Rocktron Vudoo Valve, ADA MP-1&2, and others that I can't even remember now. *I like the Line6 Pod Pro the best. *I have it in a rack with a Mesa 2:90 stereo into a Dual Recto 4x12 Cab. *It is very flexible and Rocks!!! My second choice would be the Triaxis. *I was able to get pretty good sounds out of most of the preamps I had, but I find the POD to give me the sound I really like, and without tweakin' forever to get it.

NoiseAngel · #3 10-02-2001, 03:51 AM

>> but I find the POD to give me the sound I really like <<

Digital...???

No thaks!!!

armindo__dias · #4 10-02-2001, 06:44 AM

I have the Rocktron Voodu Valve (just like the Chameleon, except it has a tube to warm the things a bit) and the MP-1 Classic (the same as the MP-1 except it has an extra channel). I also tried the JMP-1.

My opinions? The Voodu Valve is definetely the most versatille. It has tons of gain (think death metal...) and the effects are very good. I control it with the ART X-15 and it rocks. But it has a problem... it doesn't respond very well with my VWH. For example, when i do some palm muting sometimes the sound goes off for a milisecond or something, like it couldn't handle the "power" of the mute (it's kinda hard to explain, really...).

The MP-1 Classic is definetely my fave. It sounds more natural than the Voodu, it's completely analog and has tons of gain too. Hey, it's the pre-amp used by 80's metal bands, so if you are into that sound...

I tried the JMP-1 and it has less gain than any of these two. Don't get me wrong, it has enough gain, but the others have more. I happen to like the Marshall sound, and the JMP-1 nails a lot o Marshall sounds, of course. But i prefer the MP-1. It has that shreed sound that i love.

7 Dying Trees · #5 10-02-2001, 09:02 AM

Triaxis all the way. Nice death metal/speed metal tones can be obtained, and lots of other sounds, so you'll be able to have a wide variety of tones for both your metal and your cover band. This baby has 8 seperate preamp configurations to choose from, so I'd say a triaxis. Oh, and it sounds d*amn
cool too.

Gresh · #6 10-02-2001, 05:56 PM

Don't knock the POD unless you have really spent some time with it and still don't like it. *Yes it's a modeling preamp, but through a tube power section it totally screams. *Plus, with the scratch you save over a triaxis and all the tubes you won't have to change, you can add to your axe collection or step up to a better power amp/speaker combination.

But it is true that some folks just don't like it, and that's cool too...but give it a fair shake

For the record though, the triaxis is pretty tough to beat, just really expensive.

7 Dying Trees · #7 10-03-2001, 08:27 AM

yeah, I got mine second hand and at a discount, so I was quite lucky. Still have to carry around a chunky transformer as it's a US one to up the mains voltage, but it's worth it... I have never tried a POD, which is why I never comment on them. I have always been a bit dubious about trying to model something, especially after doing a project on it in college (tube modelling using DSP). You can never do it perfectly (and this is due to inherent device characteristic differences in transistors and tubes)but I do believe you can get close though... So untill I have heard one I won't praise or bash it. Although running it through a tube power stage does sound like a good thing!

Bottom line is, try them all out and find the one that strokes your ear and seductively whispers "buy me" the loudest...

Shane Regal · #8 10-04-2001, 11:27 PM

.....after spending all afternoon tweakin my Pod Pro/Mesa 2:90/Dual Recto 4x12 I'm a little bummed. *At low to medium volume it sounds wonderful. *Unfortunately, when I turn it up.........and I mean LOUD up, it gets really bright. * It's so bright I can't pull the highs out enough. *I even turned the treble/presence on the preamp all the way down, and the presence on the power amp down. *I think I'm gonna have to go back to the Triaxis... either that or get a graphic eq to roll off the highs. * The bummer is I just let a Triaxis by me for *$700. *