Jsx or Legacy

newbieguitarmaker · #1 04-20-2007, 11:14 PM

Ok guys I have a boss gt-pro for my tone right now, i'm running through a solid state studio amp (yamaha A100a) I was wondering if i should get a jsx or a legacy head amp. Also i have a mesa single 12in so i figure I don't need a cab. I've heard great things from the legacy but I've heard if you have one you really don't need an effects processor, so will this make my boss completely worthless? Also I was thinking of the legacy since Vai uses it as a clean amp to build his effects up with his processor (just his processor is definitely much more in depth). Tomorrow I might be bringing my rg into the local music store and testing a jsx. They have no legacys so I can't test one. I can probably get an employee discount there since I'm friends with the owner, I'm not sure what the price would be but it seems like a sweet deal, just as i said i don't want to make my boss gt-pro pointless.

winterlong · #2 04-20-2007, 11:44 PM

Use the boss for effects but don't use the pre or distortion in it if you are getting a real amp. I would say get the jsx it is more fexible that ant legacy. If you really love the boss sound then I would say look at power amps, something tube. As always the questions are what don't you like about your sound now? And what are you looking in a sound?

newbieguitarmaker · #3 04-20-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by winterlong

Use the boss for effects but don't use the pre or distortion in it if you are getting a real amp. I would say get the jsx it is more fexible that ant legacy. If you really love the boss sound then I would say look at power amps, something tube. As always the questions are what don't you like about your sound now? And what are you looking in a sound?

That makes sense. The problem with my sound right now is the distortion gets to distorted which sounds kind of weird

but it gets a little muddy i guess you would call it. I would like to get a smooth gain sound but i can't get it with this power amp, boss combo. With the jsx I could also get a good blues tone which is nice for the times i feel like playing some srv type stuff. I feel the boss would sound better through a real guitar amp even if i played this same preset I'm using now on the clean channel of the jsx. So I guess a jsx might be in order this summer

just let me check what the others are sayin

Dino · #4 04-21-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by newbieguitarmaker

That makes sense. The problem with my sound right now is the distortion gets to distorted which sounds kind of weird

but it gets a little muddy i guess you would call it. I would like to get a smooth gain sound but i can't get it with this power amp, boss combo. With the jsx I could also get a good blues tone which is nice for the times i feel like playing some srv type stuff. I feel the boss would sound better through a real guitar amp even if i played this same preset I'm using now on the clean channel of the jsx. So I guess a jsx might be in order this summer

just let me check what the others are sayin

I read somewhere that the clean channel of the JSX was designed for use with processors like the POD or Boss. That is what Joe wanted. Almost works like a warm power amp in that channel. Someone who owns one might have better info...

newbieguitarmaker · #5 04-21-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dino

I read somewhere that the clean channel of the JSX was designed for use with processors like the POD or Boss. That is what Joe wanted. Almost works like a warm power amp in that channel. Someone who owns one might have better info...

where is Darin when you need him

JJEMMER777 · #6 04-21-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by newbieguitarmaker

I've heard great things from the legacy but I've heard if you have one you really don't need an effects processor, so will this make my boss completely worthless?

I tried the Legacy and I did not like it at all. I returned it

You'll need a whole rack setup to get proper tone (IMHO)

newbieguitarmaker · #7 04-21-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

I tried the Legacy and I did not like it at all. I returned it

You'll need a whole rack setup to get proper tone (IMHO)

such as? This boss gt-pro replaced my preamp and my effects board also it replaced my dbx compressor. I'm using a BBE sonic maximizer with it though. Or are you talking about for just a legacy amp I'd need like a t.c. electronics or something? I believe this Jsx would bring me to the tone i want and i can use the boss features other than the distortion and preamp(includes amp modeling/speaker modeling)

jb4674 · #8 04-21-2007, 01:19 AM

Well, the clean channel wasn't designed for processors because Joe doesn't use them. The clean was designed to mimic the clean channel of his old Marshall but... When Brown came up with it, he made it better sounding than the clean on Joe's Marshall. You can pretty much put any kind of stomp box on that clean channel and it will deliver.

To be quite honest, you really won't need the distortion section of the GT-8 because the distortion on the JSX is very versatile. Most people who own a JSX (be it the combo or the head) are so impressed that they really have no need for a distortion box.

My wife bought me a JSX 212 Combo for Thanksgiving as an early Christmas present and I was totally blown away to say the least. I feel somewhat cheated about not being able to play it much because I work in the day and go to school at nights at ITT Tech. Although I'm only 1 more quarter away from getting my Bachelor's, I try to squeeze some JSX time as much as I can.

I gotta tell you, even though I don't play it as much as I'd like to, the versatility on this amp is just incredible. You can get so many sounds out of it that you find yourself wondering how Peavey was able to create such a beast.

Whether you go with the head or the combo, both of them have lots of power to practice in a room or rock out a club full of people.

If you're still doubting the JSX, check Darin's Thread:

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55425

Jimmy

newbieguitarmaker · #9 04-21-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jb4674

Well, the clean channel wasn't designed for processors because Joe doesn't use them. The clean was designed to mimic the clean channel of his old Marshall but... When Brown came up with it, he made it better sounding than the clean on Joe's Marshall. You can pretty much put any kind of stomp box on that clean channel and it will deliver.

To be quite honest, you really won't need the distortion section of the GT-8 because the distortion on the JSX is very versatile. Most people who own a JSX (be it the combo or the head) are so impressed that they really have no need for a distortion box.

My wife bought me a JSX 212 Combo for Thanksgiving as an early Christmas present and I was totally blown away to say the least. I feel somewhat cheated about not being able to play it much because I work in the day and go to school at nights at ITT Tech. Although I'm only 1 more quarter away from getting my Bachelor's, I try to squeeze some JSX time as much as I can.

I gotta tell you, even though I don't play it as much as I'd like to, the versatility on this amp is just incredible. You can get so many sounds out of it that you find yourself wondering how Peavey was able to create such a beast.

Whether you go with the head or the combo, both of them have lots of power to practice in a room or rock out a club full of people.

If you're still doubting the JSX, check Darin's Thread:

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55425

Jimmy

well I'm not doubting the power of the JSX and the great sound, I just don't want to have my boss gt-pro rack unit sitting there and collecting dust after i spent so much for it. Just I guess I would be using the delay, compressor, reverb and maybe eq and other random Fx's that come on this thing.

MadRyan · #10 04-21-2007, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by newbieguitarmaker

well I'm not doubting the power of the JSX and the great sound, I just don't want to have my boss gt-pro rack unit sitting there and collecting dust after i spent so much for it. Just I guess I would be using the delay, compressor, reverb and maybe eq and other random Fx's that come on this thing.

So run it through the FX loop with all the distortion turned off...

newbieguitarmaker · #11 04-21-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MadRyan

So run it through the FX loop with all the distortion turned off...

alright, hopefully today I can see what kind of a price i can get on it and I can mess with it today. I don't think they have the combos at my store so If i got one this summer I'd get a head amp for my mesa. But i wanted to ask the Jsx has the proper ohm output for a single 12, sometimes I've seen nice amps but they can only do 2,4,8 speakers not 1. I expect the jsx to run a 1 though because it seems like one of the most versatile amps out there

jb4674 · #12 04-21-2007, 11:26 AM

What's the ohm rating for that 12"? The JSX will be able to handle 4,8 & 16ohm loads. How do you like the GT-Pro? I hear it's got every Boss effect ever built. I really wouldn't worry about not being able to use the GT-Pro with the JSX. You should be able to hook it up to it through the effects loop and use its effects without any problems. When I mentioned that there would be no need to run the distortion off the Boss, I didn't say it as if it were set in stone or anything of that nature, most people just tend to be happy with the distortion on the JSX but, other people have used the clean channel just like Joe does to run a distortion effect of some sort.

Check it out and let us know what you think of it

Jimmy

newbieguitarmaker · #13 04-21-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jb4674

What's the ohm rating for that 12"? The JSX will be able to handle 4,8 & 16ohm loads. How do you like the GT-Pro? I hear it's got every Boss effect ever built. I really wouldn't worry about not being able to use the GT-Pro with the JSX. You should be able to hook it up to it through the effects loop and use its effects without any problems. When I mentioned that there would be no need to run the distortion off the Boss, I didn't say it as if it were set in stone or anything of that nature, most people just tend to be happy with the distortion on the JSX but, other people have used the clean channel just like Joe does to run a distortion effect of some sort.

Check it out and let us know what you think of it

Jimmy

8 Ohm so it will work. And yeah the Boss Gt-Pro has all the boss effects and more, i really like it, I got it around christmas and I'm still learning new things

Hopefully in a couple hours I'll be down at the music store!

MadRyan · #14 04-21-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by newbieguitarmaker

8 Ohm so it will work. And yeah the Boss Gt-Pro has all the boss effects and more, i really like it, I got it around christmas and I'm still learning new things

Hopefully in a couple hours I'll be down at the music store!

How many watts is the speaker rated at? You may need to pull a couple of power tubes to knock the JSX down to 60 watts. I do this with my dual rec and it works well.

newbieguitarmaker · #15 04-21-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MadRyan

How many watts is the speaker rated at? You may need to pull a couple of power tubes to knock the JSX down to 60 watts. I do this with my dual rec and it works well.

90 watts, If it would be easier for me to get a new cab i could. You guys seem to like avatar speakers so i could check those out if you guys think i should go for another cab.