Kahler Tremolos vs. Floyd Rose/Floating Tremolos Part A

[Timbaline]

Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

You forgot that since less cows are killed than chickens, beef is much more environmentally and hippie friendly!
Cow: Infinity + Pi^4
Chicken: - Infinity x Over 9000

Right I forgot to add that!

Originally Posted by jono

Sorry, can I just check that these are your "OFFICIAL" reasons? and that the reasons presented here are "OFFICIAL" !!!

Jono follow this link to see my official reasons!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Proof+that+thos...ficial+reasons

[jono]

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I'm glad that they are in fact your official reasons

[Mr. Killer]

Originally Posted by toneboy

You cannot compare the popularity of two artists to the popularity of two trem systems. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

A trem is a tool and guitar players choose the best tool for the job.

Then let me put it this way: "Fender and Gibson make the best guitars because they're the most popular".

[Guitar GeeK]

Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

You forgot that since less cows are killed than chickens, beef is much more environmentally and hippie friendly!
Cow: Infinity + Pi^4
Chicken: - Infinity x Over 9000

FarBeyond reminded me directly of the youtube guy after I had read the 1st or 2nd 'category'

The f%$k are you talking about?

[Timbaline]

Originally Posted by Guitar GeeK

The f%$k are you talking about?

He's talking about why beef is better than chicken.
Also total score:
Beef: 109!x10^99
Chicken:-10^21,000,000,000,000,000,000,001

[Guitar GeeK]

Originally Posted by Timbaline

He's talking about why beef is better than chicken.
Also total score:
Beef: 109!x10^99
Chicken:-10^21,000,000,000,000,000,000,001

Ohhhhhh........

[FarBeyond]

Originally Posted by toneboy

So Mr. FarBeyond, riddle me this:

If the Kahler cam trem is "far superior" to the Floyd Rose then why isn't the Kahler cam trem more popular and on more guitars?

For the same reason Lamborghinis are not as popular to buy as chevy cavaliers.

[FarBeyond]

Originally Posted by Guitar GeeK

Now, I have watched alot of his videos, and I have learned something about how he set-up his Kahlers. He atually lubricates the entire bridge, ...with chapstick, and not 3 in 1 oil, including the solders on the strings(Ernie Ball-9-42)"

Are you totally mad? He lubricates every spot except for the most important 6 spots needing lubrication on the bridge! AT THE SIDES OF THE ROLLERS.

He also tries to talk smack on Wammi J, the NO.1 Kahler installer, retailler, and luithier ON THE PLANET! Saying, and I quote "A Kahler tech suggested tightening the fork screws really hard and lowering the action as much as possible to solve the bending problem. The forks on my guitars are already super tight, and my action is super low. At least on my Kahlers, these suggestions don't solve the bending issue." Someone with a youtube accont please publish this post this on his channel.

btw, he has banned the kahler guy from posting on his page.

the only string to ever present an issue is the g string, lowering the saddle improves it by a bit, but the rollers need lubrication once in a while. i did this and my problem ceased to exist. therefore making the bending performance the same on both bridges.

[GuitarBizarre]

Originally Posted by FarBeyond

Are you totally mad? He lubricates every spot except for the most important 6 spots needing lubrication on the bridge! AT THE SIDES OF THE ROLLERS.



btw, he has banned the kahler guy from posting on his page.

the only string to ever present an issue is the g string, lowering the saddle improves it by a bit, but the rollers need lubrication once in a while. i did this and my problem ceased to exist. therefore making the bending performance the same on both bridges.

ALl you're doing at this point is saying 'I SAY THEY ARE BETTER SO THEY ARE' about the performance, and attempting (Clumsily, I might add) to gloss over the one defining fact that means kahlers aren't as popular.

They're WAY too expensive for what they are, and they are a GIGANTIC PAIN IN THE ASS TO WORK WITH. There are WAY too many moving parts in them, and the setup is overcomplex to say the least. Floyds aren't perfect there by a long way, but consider it this way.

How many people do you know avoid floyd roses because of them being a pain to set up?

Now multiply that number by ten for kahler, because they're a PAIN IN THE HOLE.

A floyd rose string change and FULL SETUP needs a pair of wire cutters and your allen keys. Maybe a bit of chapstick on the first set up ONLY. Thats too much hassle for most people to begin with.

A Kahler string change needs a soldering iron, wire cutters, allen keys, chapstick, oil, and whatever else you care to mention EVERY TIME. I mean seriously, a ****ING SOLDERING IRON?

[FarBeyond]

Is any forum moderator checking to see if Timbaline is attempting to direct people to a malicious software link? on his posting #31? luckily i own a mac, but he should be banned [f he is trying to] ruin people's machines

[jemsite]

Originally Posted by FarBeyond

Is any forum moderator checking to see if Timbaline is attempting to direct people to a malicious software link? on his posting #31? luckily i own a mac, but he should be banned for ruining people's machines

come one guys... now we need MAC trolls.

let me google that for you...

http://lmgtfy.com

jeez do mac zombies now hate google too ...glen

[Timbaline]

Originally Posted by jemsite

come one guys... now we need MAC trolls.

let me google that for you...

http://lmgtfy.com

jeez do mac zombies now hate google too ...glen

LOL!

Originally Posted by FarBeyond

Is any forum moderator checking to see if Timbaline is attempting to direct people to a malicious software link? on his posting #31? luckily i own a mac, but he should be banned for ruining people's machines

Why would I waste my time trying to destroy someone's computer that they've probably worked hard to get?? I'm not an apathetic jack***. I think it's pretty harsh that you want me to be banned for posting a link which: has no virus and has been used numerous times on this site. Have you even clicked on the link? It's called "let me google that for you"

I've been a member of this site for a while, I have respect for other members as well. As I said earlier I'm not the kind of ***hole who would purposely and deliberately destroy someone else's machine.

I think you want me to be banned for mocking you.

[FarBeyond]

Originally Posted by Timbaline

I think you want me to be banned for mocking you.

No I was just double checking. And I edited my post because what I meant to say was (should be banned IF he is ruining people's machines). So i just changed it to reflect that.

Some guy almost ruined our other computer on another forum during this exact same topic debate. I was lucky to have a backup and an expert cleaned up the mess pretty good before it almost wiped out the comp.

[GuitarBizarre]

Originally Posted by FarBeyond

No I was just double checking. And I edited my post because what I meant to say was (should be banned IF he is ruining people's machines). So i just changed it to reflect that.

Some guy almost ruined our other computer on another forum during this exact same topic debate. I was lucky to have a backup and an expert cleaned up the mess pretty good before it almost wiped out the comp.

So this isn't the first time you've signed up on forum, and proceeded to arrogantly parade around your opinion as 'irrefutable and objective fact'?

Jesus. I'd have thought you'd have learned after the FIRST time if this same subject has gotten someone pissed off enough to try and give you a virus. Maybe its time you accepted that you just come off as a jackass with an inflated sense of the worth of your own opinions.

[SilverEra]

Saying this guy is a jackass is as much of an under-statement as "Hey. I think Hitler had an attitude problem!"