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Old 12-24-2007, 02:28 AM
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Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


Here's a couple shots of the "relic" that's suppose to match Eds axe. If they can't match each other how can they match Eds? Just a thought.

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Old 12-24-2007, 03:33 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


I don't get your point... what exactly are you trying to say?
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Old 12-24-2007, 03:55 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


Hello Ibateur. These are two different Fender guitars that are suppose to reproduce Ed's guitar in every way. If I was dropping 25 grand on one I guess I'd like to see the same model look a little closer to each other.
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:19 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


well for starters.... why don't you point out to everyone what's so different about the 2 guitars? they look pretty similar if not the same as each other. I'd be shocked to find something blatantly missing or different from the other relics.
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:21 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


Ah, now I get the point.

Everytime that price tag is brought up I cringe.

There are definitely some inconsistencies there (between those two). Anyone have a good close up of the original? I could imagine that the inconsistencies are an acceptable statistical deviation. Otherwise they would cost 30K.

Personally I wouldn't drop 25 K for a guitar that was made to look like crap.
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Old 12-24-2007, 06:23 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


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Personally I wouldn't drop 25 K for a guitar that was made to look like crap.
And it DOES look like crap.

Seriously, if I saw a guitar like that on e-bay for £100 I still wouldn't buy it to try and clean up. It looks disgusting!
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Old 12-24-2007, 06:25 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


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And it DOES look like crap.

Seriously, if I saw a guitar like that on e-bay for £100 I still wouldn't buy it to try and clean up. It looks disgusting!
Yup! I'm with you mate!!!
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Old 12-24-2007, 07:47 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


What a farce. The original cost him a few hundred dollars - because HE DIDN"T HAVE ANY MONEY in those days. Charvel neck for $60. and I think a Mity mite after-market body for $90. - he took the single pickup from his Gibson -

Even the most serious Eddie fan should be insulted with a re-issue for 25K.
What a slap in the face. Fender should offer a SQUIRE EVH model for $299.

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Old 12-24-2007, 08:25 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


EVH was all about making more out of less in terms of guitars. This is making more money out of less guitar...

He did the work on his own guitars, painted and soldered where needed (or wanted). A reissue of this guitar is not the right idea, in my book. It would be if they had a limited number and sold them for the original cost of EVH's guitar. That would be approx. $200. Now that would be a reissue... And the value would still rise heavily due to high demand vs availability.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:55 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


If you look close enough, under close scrutiny, you CAN see that they are not exact copies of each other. And he's right: If they can't be clones of each other, how can they be clones of the real deal. For Eddie to say he can't tell the difference shows that he's either still drunk off his ass, or a total bull**** artist. I'm betting it's a bit of both. All for the love of a buck.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


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If you look close enough, under close scrutiny, you CAN see that they are not exact copies of each other. And he's right: If they can't be clones of each other, how can they be clones of the real deal. For Eddie to say he can't tell the difference shows that he's either still drunk off his ass, or a total bull**** artist. I'm betting it's a bit of both. All for the love of a buck.
Obviously you have managed to find some differences with both of those axes which is great, so why don't you point them out to us? Personally, I don't think it's fair to compare both of those guitars because the pictures themselves are not similar in that they were not shot using the same light, etc. If you want to do a honest comparison, then find 2 good pictures of the guitars side by side and then comment about the inconsistencies.

I personally wouldn't pay more than 1200 bucks for one of those clones. For 25K, Eddie can come and deliver the guitar to my house and have a coke and a smile with me, along with a free lesson.

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Old 12-24-2007, 10:55 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


an inconsistency I have found is on the little squiggly lines above and between the neck SC and middle SC cavity. Pic on the right doesn't show as much black as the pic on the left. OK OK OK could be "different lighting" or "different angle" or "altitude" or whatever.

Who cares?
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:02 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


Whether there is inconsitencies or not. It just is not worth 25k.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:03 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


For that price tag, I'm guessing these are all hand made, hand pained etc. In which case, there are always going to be slight discrepancies between the two. The only way that every guitar could be an exact copy of eachother is if they were using some computerised template and just spraying the things using that. In which case, the cost would be even less justified.

The only differences I can see are a couple of those black spots are either a little fainter or in a different place or some of the worn marks are out by a mm or so. All things you'd expect from a hand made instrument. Otherwise, they are pretty damn similar.

Besides, the original changed on an almost weekly basis, who's to say the instance they have chosen is the definitive version of the guitar?
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:13 AM
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Re: Let's look at the Van Halen relic shall we?


For 25 K, if EvH changes anything on the original, you should be able to send the replica back to Fender and have them update your guitar too.
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