Linkin Park's Treatment towards their gear - Page 6

jemplayer55 · #76 08-20-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hydrahead

One time Hendrix complained to his manager about all the stupid stuff he was expected to do on stage. Stick out his tounge, dance around, play the guitar behind his head, and then smash it. The manager said, fine if you don't want to do that stuff, don't. The next show Jimi just stood behind the mic, sang and play his guitar. The manager said that that was the best live show he'd ever seen.

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Originally Posted by Drew

I've heard that story - evidently, when he just laid back and played, he was so good it was scary. Of course, the fans complained, so he was back to the circus act by the next show...

Where do some of you guys come up with some of this stuff.... ??

Simply amazing.....

**elcid** · #77 08-20-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by David McCarroll

That's a bit nasty Cid, how about "Townsend is one of the most significant songwriters and guitarists of the British rock scene...."

Ok fine, Townsend is one of the most significant songwriters and guitarists of the British rock scene....and he has a thing for little boys.

jemplayer55 · #78 08-20-2007, 06:26 PM

^^^^ Cid..... read post #76.

Then this.....

http://money.guardian.co.uk/scamsand...059878,00.html

Now read this too..... see "police caution"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Townshend

Actually, the allegation was regarding child porn..... so how you construe that to just "little boys"...... Again, I'm just amazed you'd perpetuate stuff that's been debunked!

**elcid** · #79 08-20-2007, 06:32 PM

Townshend said, "I accept that I was wrong to access this site, and that by doing so, I broke the law, and I have accepted the caution that the police have given me."

Michael Jackson and OJ were cleared too.

Townsend is a little light in the loafers, I once saw him say that the first time he saw Mick Jagger perform was the first time he wanted to f**k a man.

jemplayer55 · #80 08-20-2007, 06:41 PM

^^^^ Oh God......

Drew · #81 08-20-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jemplayer55

Where do some of you guys come up with some of this stuff.... ??

Simply amazing.....

I'm a hendrix nut from, well, if not "way back," from as far back as a 26-year-old guy can claim to have been into an artist from the late 60's.

Jimi and Cobain are the two reasons I picked up the guitar.

Whether or not the story we're talking about is rumour or heresay, I can say with absolute confidence that Hendrix found the "stage act" he quickly became associated with very constricted, and it really bothered him that the fans got off more on the mock-cunnilingus and phallic imagery than they did on the music and the actual guitar playing. It was one of the things that really bothered him towards the end of his career, that if he played a show and didn't dry-hump his guitar once or twice or lick the neck, everyone would be upset and feel like they didn't get their money's worth.

jemplayer55 · #82 08-20-2007, 07:07 PM

^^^ Again.... big fan or not where do you guys "find" this stuff??? Hendrix spent his last years trying to convince those surrounding him he wanted to stretch out musically...... he certainly realized his stage persona sold tickets, though he may have grown bored of his own creation. He had considerably more problems deciding what musicians to perform with, not to mention the "new" friends that had entered his life along with other demons. Please post your sources..... I'd be interested to see.

Drew · #83 08-21-2007, 03:32 PM

A couple Hendrix bios sitting currently in my old bedroom back at my parents' place. As such, it's a little tough for me to give you exact titles right now.

I'll try to remember the next time I'm back there though.

Though, for the time being, see if you can track down a copy of the "Jimi: Blues" Alan Douglas compilation, now out of print. The liner notes are excellent and talk a lot about both Jimi's blues roots and about other blues players' attitudes towards him which is something you almost never get to see, and furthermore the material is seriously good. You almost never get to hear this side of his playing, but when he lays back and does away with the psychedelia, Jimi's probably STILL the greatest pure electriic blues player I've ever heard. I love Vaughan and all, but it's a pity in the post-SRV era modern blues guitar is Texas blues, and Jimi's funked-up Chicago blues on acid sound has been almost totally bypassed.

wallie! · #84 08-22-2007, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by David McCarroll

Well, it's not only that, Blackmore was scalloping all the frets on his Strats, he got into the sort of Neo-Renaissance style of dress, was a super fast arpeggio player, got involved with fusing classical music with rock guitar, is an obnoxious brat, tends to get chubby when he's not careful....... need I go any further......? Oh,yeah and his main choice of guitars was early seventies Olympic White Strats...... any of that sound familiar?

As for your last sentence, I really, really don't care one way or the other about YJM, really seriously not, and yes, he's technically a superb player, but he sure has watched a lot of Deep Purple videos in his formative years!

It's just that the gear trashing thing is just so ....... tired ........

I guess you got me there :P

David McCarroll · #85 08-22-2007, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jemplayer55

^^^ Again.... big fan or not where do you guys "find" this stuff??? Hendrix spent his last years trying to convince those surrounding him he wanted to stretch out musically...... he certainly realized his stage persona sold tickets, though he may have grown bored of his own creation. He had considerably more problems deciding what musicians to perform with, not to mention the "new" friends that had entered his life along with other demons. Please post your sources..... I'd be interested to see.

I'll second Drew's comments - Jimi eventually ditched The Experience and started a new band called The Band of Gypsies as he was sick of being a showman rather than a musician - that was when he parted company with Mitch Mitchell and took up with Billy Cox I believe - he also took up with Cox (so the rumour goes) because he was copping major flak from activists such as The Black Panthers for playing in an all white group - weird.....

7 Dying Trees · #86 08-22-2007, 10:08 AM

You'll probably find that the techs then pick up the pieces, glue them back together, and then the same guitar gets smashed next show. It's quite hard to break a guitar, and noone wants to look like a weakling on stage, so the guitars that get smashed are often basically stage propped guitars, ones that have been smashed already!

Quite a few people do this

jemplayer55 · #87 08-22-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by David McCarroll

I'll second Drew's comments - Jimi eventually ditched The Experience and started a new band called The Band of Gypsies as he was sick of being a showman rather than a musician - that was when he parted company with Mitch Mitchell and took up with Billy Cox I believe - he also took up with Cox (so the rumour goes) because he was copping major flak from activists such as The Black Panthers for playing in an all white group - weird.....

Second them, third them...... guys I've read several of the Hendrix Biographies also including the ones said to contain a healthy dose of B.S., I surely don't recall any story regarding Hendrix complaining to his manager about all the "stupid stuff" he was expected to do on stage.

Or the manager saying, "fine if you don't want to do that stuff, don't." Or "the next show Jimi just stood behind the mic, sang and played his guitar." Let alone "the manager said that that was the best live show he'd ever seen."

As far a Billy Cox..... Hendrix knew him from the Army where they had shared music as a common interest. He surely didn't "hook up" with him because he was getting "major flack" from the Black Panthers.

Noel Redding quit the band and Hendrix remembered his buddy from the days in the army. David.... I'm shocked you'd even post such garbage! Even you admit it's a rumor.

The Panthers issues with Hendrix are somewhat addressed, but he never caved to any of the propaganda they were preaching.

I think you guys are missing the point here, it's about rumor and unsubstantiated story..... Hendrix was not "so disillusioned" over what the fans expected. He simply wanted to stretch out musically which meant he'd have to shed some of his "wild man" image, which he had used to his advantage during the Experience years...... He was more concerned about unruly fans becoming violent..... (which had happen on a couple of occasions, and not due to his stage antics or lack of) But he was still well aware of what contributed to his success. Hendrix was concerned with his music evolving and finding good musicians as opposed to his "expected" stage antics!

I'm not that big a fan of Wikpedia on some things..... but it pretty much hits the important facts which can be verified on Hendrix.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix

Drew · #88 08-22-2007, 12:31 PM

Yeah, I've read that he took some heat from the Black Panthers, but didn't particularly care and never really got where they were coming from.

I'll see if I can find a source for you though, because I've heard it in a few places, I think, that he found the "stage show" kind of constrictive.

Also, in other news - "Jimi: Blues" has been re-released. This is seriously one of my favorite Jimi recordings because it's so stripped down and bare, and just track after track of killer blues guitar.

http://www.amazon.com/Blues-Jimi-Hen...7796630&sr=8-1

There's also a tab book for it - I'd been meaning to transcribe at least a few tracks by ear (specifically "Born Under a Bad Sign,") but there's a few bits I have NO idea what he's doing, so I think I'm going to suck it up and cheat.