My pedal board and tone loss issues.... (long post)

[thebigugly]

Ya know i am curious about the Tonebone Loopbone. Are these all they are cracked up to be? Oh yeah i see the mini mag light in the pic. Brilliant. Hope you don't mind if i copy that idea. Joshua

[NvrEnufIbz]

Rotti:

Theoretically the problem you have noticed would greatly be rectified with either a dedicated buffer at the beginning of the chain on your pedalboard or with a pedal with a buffer built into it, such as was listed. The problem as I read it was the difference in impedance between the humbuckers and single coils. A buffer ... in working terms, basically acts as a little amplifier to jack your signal up a little to be able to push thru all the pedals.

Here's a couple things copied from various websites reguarding buffers:

Buffers have several advantages: You can drive longer cables with less noise; have a tuner connected with less interaction; and loading no longer becomes a problem as you gang a bunch of pedals together.

Without a buffer, each time you introduce another pedal or a cable, more noise gets into your system. This is because guitar pickups are high impedance devices that are particularly susceptible to noise from power transformers, LCD screens, power cables and stage lighting. Furthermore, if you extend the hi impedance cable more than 20 feet, the tone of the instrument will change due to the capacitance of the cable and of course more noise will enter the circuit. Then of course there is the strength of the guitar signal itself. If the guitar signal is divided in two to drive two amps or in three when you ad a tuner, the tone will be severely altered.

And Input from guys using dedicated buffers (which I use one as well and agree completely with the tone I look for)

This little black box restores the clarity and punch to my guitar signal. It now seems i have more frequencies in the signal to work with. I can dial down the top end and still have it cut thru the mix without it being harsh.
It will change your tone, but for the better. It gives you much much more control over your sound because your amp is dealing with a better signal.
All 10's here. I was beaming from ear to ear when i first heard the difference. Its hard to believe how one little device can make such an improvement to the tone.

Reviewers on this forum are always talking about tone. This pedal retains and maintains your tone. If you have ears you will notice a different. One caution some fuzz/distortions work better in front of this pedal.

The Buffer works fantastic, there is no noise and no loss of signal or tone. It did exactly what I hoped it would.


I hope this helps some

kevin

[toma]

if you had an amp with two inputs, could you use a splitter pedal and have one output from it through your fx, and in to the amp. and the other output straight to ther second input on your amp. then you could keep the cleans , and have fx.
this is just an idea, anyone think its a good one?

[HIS ROYAL DARKNESS]

DO get George L cables..they make a big difference, IMO.
If you have two or three pedals that you can deem the biggest suckers, play them in the loop of a true bypass looper pedal. These can make a big difference. You would be introducing MORE cable into your overall run, so George Ls would help even more in this situation.

http://www.lovepedal.com/Guitarminibuffers.htm
Order one! They make a HUGE difference! I actually like mine at the end of the signal chain. Small, cheap, AC Tap. That's an impressive little device!

[vaijem777]

Originally Posted by toma

if you had an amp with two inputs, could you use a splitter pedal and have one output from it through your fx, and in to the amp. and the other output straight to ther second input on your amp. then you could keep the cleans , and have fx.
this is just an idea, anyone think its a good one?

Don't think that'd work unless it's a true stereo amp with completely seperate channels. For example, that would work with something like one of the Rivera TBR rack-mounted heads. Two totally independant power amps with two sets of outputs. You could run one side dry into one cabinet and one side with FX to another.

More trouble than it's worth though - just get an amp with an FX loop.

[toma]

i have a fender deluxe hot rod...

[vaijem777]

Then the answer would be "no". There are (2) inputs on the Hot Rod Deluxe, but the second input is for instruments with active electronics - it's set at 6dB less gain than the first input. You could plug two guitars in if you really wanted to, but it's not a stereo amp so the scenario that you suggested wouldn't work.

[toma]

however...if you plug something in to both inputs at once, then they both are amplified at the same volume, i think.
cheers for the advice btw :-)

[toma]

Originally Posted by vaijem777

More trouble than it's worth though - just get an amp with an FX loop.

the deluxe has one, will it solve my probelems?

also

anyone know hor to convert a big muff to true bypass?
cheers.

[vaijem777]

Yup- when both inputs are used, they're equal and would basically split the output of the amp in two. A friend of mine uses his Hot Rod DeVille to teach a few students and uses it in this manner.