New cord makes all the difference!!!

[tone_connoisseur]

I had just received my new Carvin MTS3200 head and I really liked the sound. But I wanted to change the tubes and start fresh. So I installed some JJ E34L, and JJ12AX7s high gain tubes. Plugged in and it actually sounded worse. The lows were good and punchy, but the highs seemed to lack some presence. Overall it sounded kind of muddy.

After receiving a new Monster cable (I know there's great debate over Monster and George L. cables) I plugged in and it was a world of difference. Everything was crystal clear and my Carvin now ROARS!!! What an amazing difference a cable can make.

[red5]

Yeah I noticed a difference when I got mine too!

[lyconxero]

I personally love my monster cable....and yeah, it really does make a difference.

[the.godfather]

Yeah, a good cable makes the world of difference. I dont fully 100% believe the old "the more you pay the better the product". There are some really nice mid-ranged cables too. But you can always tell a really nice cable, and it makes alot of difference. I havent tried Monster cables yet, but am keen to at some point.

[whatshisname]

I wonder what the results would have been, had you used the Monster cable with the original tubes? It might have been much different, maybe even for the worse.

I won't buy their products, because of the lawsuits they have waged against small companies, as if they invented the word "Monster". I won't go any deeper into that, as there's already a thread about it.

[kennydoe]

This thread can't really be truly subjective, as we don't know the brand, length or condition of the cable that was replaced.

For all we know, this is a Monster Cable employee shilling for their company.

~K

[red5]

Originally Posted by kennydoe

This thread can't really be truly subjective, as we don't know the brand, length or condition of the cable that was replaced.

For all we know, this is a Monster Cable employee shilling for their company.

~K

Yeah but assume it's some cheap piece of ****?

If it was a decent cable, there wouldnt be that much of a difference... if any!

[rufes]

There is a big differences between cables.

I do not know that Monster cables but I tried George Ls vintage reds and even they're expensive are the only ones I use now.

I made a test in lespaulforum long time ago.

I made 2 recordings. One of them with a normal cable and the other one with the Geloge Ls. I did not mention which one was the George Ls but everybody except 1 person knew it because of the quality of the tone.

[kennydoe]

Originally Posted by red5

Yeah but assume it's some cheap piece of ****?

If it was a decent cable, there wouldnt be that much of a difference... if any!

Assuming it's a "cheap piece of ****", how do you know a ProCo (or similar) cable wouldn't have improved your sound just the same?

No need to shill for Monster if you don't have anything to compare it to.
~K

[MicJustMic]

Tone is subjective, never forget that . . . BUT . . . the performance of a cable can be tested with meters.

Check resistance . . . should be very low . . . then use a white noise generator (or pink) and check the way it looks on an o-scope. It shouldn't alter the signal too much across the audible bandwidth.

Since your ears want to hear a certain tone, this is not a good way to judge a cable. If you have a shrill amp and/or guitar, and you prefer a warmer sound, a cable that causes the highs to drop will make the guitar sound better to your ear. That doesn't make it a better cable . . . just one that colors the sound in a way that pleases your ear.

A perfect cable would transfer 100% of your guitars signal across 100% of the band width . . . a good cable will transfer "most" of your guitars signal across "most" of the bandwidth . . .

A bad cable will drop the signal at random points across the bandwidth (color the sound) . . .

A broken cable will drop ALL of the signal across the entire bandwidth . . .

Mic

[tone_connoisseur]

I'm definitely not in the music business, I'm in the medical field. I just couldn't believe my ears. The Monster cable I'm using is a 12'. I was using a 10' or 12' Spectraflex, and I even tried my good Rapco Heatshrink. Keep in mind, those cables are both over 10 years old. I cleaned the jacks before I played through them, but it still didn't make much of a difference.

I bought the head used, and the power tubes were Electroharmonix, and the preamp tubes were a combination of GT, and Electroharmonix. The head itself sounded good with the new tubes, a lot punchier, but the cable definitely made things a lot more clear. When I bought the Monster Cable I was also debating on the George L. cable. There is always more room for experimentation with cables. I guess sometimes a regular cheap cable is ok, but I thought anyone having problems with their sound might benefit from my experience if they tried one. I really like the sound that I'm getting now. Best sound I've heard straight from the head with no outboard preamp.

[frankfalbo]

So it really boils down to:

"I replaced my 10+ year old cable(s) with brand new one and noticed a big improvement."

[kennydoe]

WOW! I can't believe a brand new cable sounds better than old 10 year old cables! :-p

Before you write to Monster fro your endorsement deal, go buy a 'normal' cable, same length...not Hosa or store band crap...just ProCo, Hot Wires, whatever.

Have a friend or loved one do a blindfold test with you - let them plug in the cables while you listen. If you can honestly pick out which cable is which, I'll give you a dollar.

~K

[red5]

Originally Posted by kennydoe

Assuming it's a "cheap piece of ****", how do you know a ProCo (or similar) cable wouldn't have improved your sound just the same?

No need to shill for Monster if you don't have anything to compare it to.
~K

I never said it wouldn't. Don't try to imply things I never said.

[red5]

I had some cheap POS cable of some sort, dont even know who made it, or really care, because it's a cheap POS!

Can't miss the difference.