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Old 08-09-2004, 08:28 PM
adamcbest adamcbest is offline
 
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opening own guitar/music store.


i had no idea where to put this post on here.. so i just stuck it here. I'm planning in the next few years to open my own guitar store after i et a ssecure job and make some cash. it's kinda like my dream.. I was just wondering if any of you guys have your own stores and if you have any quick advice.. thanks
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Old 08-10-2004, 02:29 AM
wildealien wildealien is offline
 
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good luck!!

i don't own a guitar store, but i have been known to go into them
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Old 08-10-2004, 02:33 AM
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How cool. Live the dream!

My little dream is to open a cafe/club. During the day it would be a bohemian cafe and at night a rock club with live bands. I'm thinking about doing a business course of some kind maybe next year.
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Old 08-10-2004, 05:57 AM
TheToneZone TheToneZone is offline
 
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I see alot of small business' open and close in my line of work...
My sincere advice to you is to first consult a business attorney and then get yourself a good accountant, those who specialize in small business and tax issues. It's easier than one might think to get in over your head while you still believe everything is OK. I've seen a number of the "dummies" books that are very good as well.

A second word of advice is to find a niche. Probably best to go with instrument lessons. Someone will ALWAYS sell for less than you do, but you really need a reason to draw a customer into the store. Theres a small local shop i visit from time to time, they survive by being very rooted in the community and associating with the schools for primarily lessons and rentals. They target the beginner to novice. They also move very little merchandise.

Give me something i want to drive out of town for..... i'm tired of tripping over displays at guitar center.

Mike
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Old 08-10-2004, 09:56 AM
Drew Drew is offline
 
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Um, I'm currently working as an accountant and would gladly teach guitar... *hint, hint*

Na, joking aside, more power to you if you can pull it off, and you're right, TZ- most guys wll buy from the store that they feel gives something back to the music community before they buy from the chain, if they can.

-D
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Old 08-10-2004, 02:16 PM
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I agree, and find or become the best setup guru in your area, I for one am VERY loyal to a guy who can dial in my guitars better than I can myself.
I used to go to a guy who could barely see, but he knew his way around a guitar and had my axes playing so nicely after he was done.
Problem was he went to a slighly more mainstream store, got some recognition and his work suffered. I found a new guy close to me who's pretty quick, inexpensive, and does great work.
A good tech is a definate asset that will increase your traffic through the store.


Bamm
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Old 08-10-2004, 03:32 PM
frankfalbo frankfalbo is offline
 
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Margins are very low, and sales occupy a tremendous amount of time. Musicians want to talk about tone for hours and then ask you to price match at the end after you've given exhausting amounts of advice. So you have to guard your time while still being a guru, or you'll never earn a fair wage. Lessons are a must for a small shop. You need steady revenue to get you past tough weeks. Be very skeptical of everything the sales reps tell you, and do not accept things like "minimum order" limits or mandatory stocking of certain items at face value. Usually that can be tweaked. Most sales reps will hurt you and your business if it means getting a bigger piece of your purchasing pie. The industry is crammed with failed musicians, too. And they don't always make the best businessmen. Guys who would never get past the mail room in most corporations get to be "Vice President" of something or other in the music business.

If you can find other ways to produce revenue that's great too. For example, have practice space for rent to bands. Then when they are practicing and break a string, or decide a phaser would go well in the song they're writing, they'll come right over and buy, and be less interested in whether you're $3 higher than Guitar Center. If you know how to record, you could even offer demo sessions. Good digital gear is so cheap now that you could set it up reasonably, and make a good buck, even if no one's buying wahs or amps that week Like bamm said service work is a great road to success, but you have to be good at it or else it backfires.
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Old 08-10-2004, 04:05 PM
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i was kinda thinking the service route myself as well. good guitar techs... one hting i noticed when i went into guitar center. They dont' treat anyhting well.. I asked to play a JEM that was on the top tier of the ibanez section.. and they just basically started throwing the lower end instruments around like they were nothing.. i mean sure they maybe aren't something special to guys who have been playing a while.. but some new player might come in and a see that guitar for 150 bucks and say. "wow i really like that and can afford it.. but there is a huge knick in the back." they don't seem to care about their stuff. also nothing at guitar center ever seems to be setup or in tune.. honestly from my point of view as being a customer.. they would sell more if stuff was setup nicely. maybe i don't knwo any better.. but that's what i think.. i would also offer lessons.. but how do you go about finding good players who can teach??

i didn't think about a practice room.. but that is a good idea.. as is the recording room and renting.. thanks for the good info guys.. keep it coming luckily for me i know a couple guys who know the business pretty well.. accountants and lawyers.. so i think i at least have a good start with that.. this probably won't happen for a few years yet.. probably even more than that.. but i want to do something with my life that's fun and i enjoy rather than sit behind a desk at a high stress job i hate.. even if it doesn't get a bunch of money. thanks guys.. i really appreciate it.
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