Peavey 6505

shreddingjoris · #1 03-15-2008, 08:52 PM

anyone own this amp head or combo? what is the difference between 6505 and 6505 + ? soundclips are welcome :-) allready looked on youtube,

markyperfection · #2 03-15-2008, 10:10 PM

the 6505+ has one additional preamp tube (so more gain in the preamp stage), separate eq for each channel, footswitchable effects loop, separate resonance and presence controls for each channel, and that's more or less it.

i don't have any sound clips available, but there are dozens of modern metal bands you could check out that use them. i have used them both, and am no longer a fan of the sound of these things, but between the other guitar player in my band and the two guys in the band we share a practice room with, there are 3 6505+(5150II) and one 6505(5150), so that's 3 to 1 for the plus haha.

texshred777 · #3 03-15-2008, 10:50 PM

http://www.fjamods.com/5150VS5150II.html

I've found his descriptions of the 5150/6505 series to be pretty accurate. He also has a 5150 head vs combo comparison.

shogun · #4 03-16-2008, 12:16 AM

i owned a 6505+ head, sold it a couple months ago... sounds great for rhythm, especially fast metal.. a bit buzzy.. need to crank it to get the best of it.. i wouldnt recommend it for a serious lead player

losgatosrg350dx · #5 03-16-2008, 02:34 AM

awesome amp

the amps came is desing series it was like this

vtm
ultra gain
5150
6505

in teh vtm series they were great
in the 5150 series they were amped up, also a 5150 II is yes just extra tube and extra eq settings for on the fly switch without having to adjust tone
6505 is the new hotter version and balsier version of 5150
also has the same feature in 6505 +
the 5150 III is alot like a hopped up legacy amp, not meant just for metal but more clean crunchy sustain...but still all these amps have almost the exact output stage and circuitry with some small differnces...but anyways

very awesome amps, 6505 is a metal amp and if u got the cash get a 6505+ cuz youll love it

one thing, the input resistance on the high gain section or even the signal bypass in the back, they are all very high, so to get them to scream in all out furry you need to get like a decimator for the input and output and a compressor limiter noise gate...one with a like a mixer volume out, or whatever

they are awesome, i almost went that route, but i dont use the preamp at all and before i had my rack amp i had a peavey ultra gain tube head, and it was spectacular, didnt have the resonance or the presense features like the 6505 or the 5150 III.....

but yeah them peaveys i like, sometimes they pickup minimal noise, but thats due to thier sensitivity, so use a noise gate, and the power section is super quiet

shreddingjoris · #6 03-16-2008, 05:04 AM

thxs for the info! it's actually because of pagan's mind i begin to get interest

, i know he uses 5150 II but since they don't make them anymore...are the combo's using the same speaker as the 4x12 cabs?

shogun · #7 03-16-2008, 08:26 AM

FYI -- you won't get the lead tone of pagan's mind's guitarist by buying a 6505+...

shreddingjoris · #8 03-16-2008, 10:07 AM

haha i know, but i love the amp sound anyways :-)

toshiro · #9 03-16-2008, 11:21 AM

#1: There are no differences- 5150 vs 6505, nor 5150II vs 6505+. The only reason the name was changed was because EVH owns the rights to that name, the amps were not updated. The 5150III is a Fender-made amp, and has nothing to do with the others outside the EVH connection.

#2: The extra tube in a 5150II/6505+ is for the "Clean/Crunch" channel, and isn't involved in creating more gain on the "Lead" channel.

losgatosrg350dx · #10 03-16-2008, 11:44 AM

i am one hundred percent sure that the input stage og the 6505 are different than the 5150

they sound completely different

i have to argue with toshiro since i know the built in noisegate is in the 6505..wich is for the most part self adjusting i think. it responds to feedback squeals

and the 5150 has just a higher input resistor

in fact you should try to tell peavey and the designers that thers no differenc, you can call them up, and let us know, becasue when i was interested in buying one, before i got into rack amps, i did do the reseach and they did tell me they are different amps

but the powerstages are almost the same

and as for 5151 III why would it say made in USA and made by peavey....
did fender dip its wang in thier pool, this is news to me.....but id like to know more if you have more substansiated data somewhere out there..... let me know

toshiro · #11 03-16-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losgatosrg350dx

i am one hundred percent sure that the input stage og the 6505 are different than the 5150

they sound completely different

i have to argue with toshiro since i know the built in noisegate is in the 6505..wich is for the most part self adjusting i think. it responds to feedback squeals

and the 5150 has just a higher input resistor

in fact you should try to tell peavey and the designers that thers no differenc, you can call them up, and let us know, becasue when i was interested in buying one, before i got into rack amps, i did do the reseach and they did tell me they are different amps

but the powerstages are almost the same

and as for 5151 III why would it say made in USA and made by peavey....
did fender dip its wang in thier pool, this is news to me.....but id like to know more if you have more substansiated data somewhere out there..... let me know

EVH left Peavey. That's why the name was changed on the 5150 to the 6505. The amp was not changed, there is no built in noise gate.

Info from NAMM when the re-badging took place:
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAM...6505-amps.html

That was one of the main selling points, that they didn't change the 5150 at all. From the above:
"In fact, Peavey made only one alteration to the 5150 before relaunching it as the 6505: changing the logo beneath its metal grille. Rest assured, the signature raw rock tones guitar players have known and loved for the past 14 years are alive, loud and proud in the Peavey 6505 Series."

As for the 5150-III:
Here's a spec .pdf for it- http://www.instituteofnoise.com/L6/f...50_III_PRP.pdf
The NAMM press release for EVH+Fender:
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAM...er/PR/EVH.html

losgatosrg350dx · #12 03-16-2008, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toshiro

EVH left Peavey. That's why the name was changed on the 5150 to the 6505. The amp was not changed, there is no built in noise gate.

Info from NAMM when the re-badging took place:
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAM...6505-amps.html

That was one of the main selling points, that they didn't change the 5150 at all. From the above:
"In fact, Peavey made only one alteration to the 5150 before relaunching it as the 6505: changing the logo beneath its metal grille. Rest assured, the signature raw rock tones guitar players have known and loved for the past 14 years are alive, loud and proud in the Peavey 6505 Series."

As for the 5150-III:
Here's a spec .pdf for it- http://www.instituteofnoise.com/L6/f...50_III_PRP.pdf
The NAMM press release for EVH+Fender:
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAM...er/PR/EVH.html

wow thanks for the info, i was under the impression there were some changes that took place in it, so does that mean the 5150III is made below par now that fender has the right to it....(not a fender fan) but just wondering

i was also under the impression the 5150III was made in the usa, i thought i saw it at g.c. a while ago, but i just assumed it was still a peavey product, so it is a new company they are calling it evhgear.com or what??

thanks for the info i thought it was something different

toshiro · #13 03-16-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losgatosrg350dx

wow thanks for the info, i was under the impression there were some changes that took place in it, so does that mean the 5150III is made below par now that fender has the right to it....(not a fender fan) but just wondering

i was also under the impression the 5150III was made in the usa, i thought i saw it at g.c. a while ago, but i just assumed it was still a peavey product, so it is a new company they are calling it evhgear.com or what??

thanks for the info i thought it was something different

The 5150III is made in the USA as far as I know. From the hype, it's more "Van Halen" tone, while the 5150 1&2 have become more associated with Swedish Death Metal.

losgatosrg350dx · #14 03-16-2008, 12:10 PM

yeah but if fender took over the 5150 build, would we also be talking about a loss in build and part quality..?? or does this not matter, did evh? fender? or whomever, keep the proprietary 5150 desing, or was it redesigned since its a diff company.....then wouldnt it not be a 5150 trully...??

kotornut · #15 03-16-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toshiro

The 5150III is made in the USA as far as I know. From the hype, it's more "Van Halen" tone, while the 5150 1&2 have become more associated with Swedish Death Metal.

I played the 5150III and I hated it. It sounds like EVH tone but, dummed down a lot. I can't describe it, it sounded like you were faking the sound instead of really getting it. Like a Line 6 or something.