Peavey classic 50/50 to replace my JCM TSL ???

Mick90 · #1 11-03-2003, 05:42 AM

Here is the question...

I currently have a TSL60 head, and a multi FX digitech RP2000 plugged into the head.

I like big and fat tones, such as Metallica, machine head... an stuff like that.

At the moment, I need a little more of my Marshall, especially concerning the attack and the "clarity" of my loud distortions, because of the muddy Marshall's tone.

Does plug my RP2000 directly into a Peavey Classic 50/50 could be a solution ?

Your advices ?

bpd111 · #2 11-03-2003, 11:18 AM

I wouldn't think so. The RP is just an FX box, right? I would think you'd want a preamp. The head has a preamp and an amp. The 50/50 is just an amp. I just picked up a Peavey Rockmaster for a buck! If you like the RP, throw in a Rockmaster or other preamp of your choice and you're good to go. (Assuming of course your speaker cab matches up with the 50/50.)

Mick90 · #3 11-03-2003, 12:07 PM

No bpd,

The RP2000 IS a preamp ! (it's specify in the handbook !)

Not only an Fx box !

Drew · #4 11-03-2003, 05:05 PM

Have you tried a simple pramp tube swap? I'm currently running JJ's in my TSL's preamp, and they sound heavier than god when dialed in right:

http://www.geocities.com/drewpeterso...ezone7clip.mp3

It's a mp3 clip from a mp3, so the encoding ate it a little bit, but you can get the feel- this is with the deep mode and the tone shift and everything off, just the unadulterated tone of the amp, double-tracked. Hell, that was actually my LEAD settings, lol, i was just screwing around and didn't bother to dial up another tone. Try gain 5.5, treble and mids 6, bass 7, volume 2 VPR on, and any differences you're hearing will be a product of your guitar or your tubes. The stock Svetlanas, i think, sound like ****.

-D

gkelm · #5 11-03-2003, 07:12 PM

I'm not really understanding what you're after. You might try running your RP2000 into the effects IN rather than the input on front of the TSL. The PV is a cool sounding amp...good clean and nice internal cruch channel.
Greg

Jeff · #6 11-03-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gkelm

I'm not really understanding what you're after. You might try running your RP2000 into the effects IN rather than the input on front of the TSL. The PV is a cool sounding amp...good clean and nice internal cruch channel.
Greg

If you did it that way, you would have to have a switch to go between the preamp on the TSL and the RP2000. Or you could just plug straight into the RP2000 and disregard the TSL preamp.

Mick90 · #7 11-04-2003, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew

Have you tried a simple pramp tube swap? I'm currently running JJ's in my TSL's preamp, and they sound heavier than god when dialed in right

Yes, I have already tried differents preamp tubes, and also mix of differents brand (A good french tube dealer has advise me a lot for this).

With my actual tube mix on the TSL, The sound is quite better than with stock tubes ! but, I need a little more... (maybe that I will always want this little more ! with any other amp !!!

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkelm

You might try running your RP2000 into the effects IN rather than the input on front of the TSL. Greg

I have already try this, but I have a great loss of power and an increase of noises.

Finally, what I want to know is if the PV classic has power and metal attitudes, (but I don't think PV built blues amp...). This power amp seems to be a good base to start a good rack gear ! isn't it ??? (and also one of the cheaper !)

bpd111 · #8 11-04-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick90

No bpd,

The RP2000 IS a preamp ! (it's specify in the handbook !)

Not only an Fx box !

I stand corrected.

darren wilson · #9 11-04-2003, 11:18 PM

I find it hard to believe that plugging into the effects return would give you a significant loss of power and increase in noise. That just doesn't sound right. Are you sure the output level on the RP2000 was set correctly?

If the RP2000 has its own effects loop, you could try what is called the "four cable method":

1. Plug your guitar into your RP2000.
2. Plug the Effects Send from the RP2000 into the TSL's main input.
3. Plug the Effects Send from the TSL into the Effects Return on the RP2000.
4. Plug the Mono Out from the RP2000 into the Effects Return of the TSL.

This has the net result of allowing you to insert the TSL pre-amp into your signal chain as you would a distortion pedal. You can tweak your patches on the RP2000 to turn its effects loop or off, essentially cutting the amp's preamp in or out of the signal chain.

I've read about this being done with the GT-6... dunno if a similar method could be applied to the RP2000.

Mick90 · #10 11-05-2003, 04:52 AM

Thanks Darren,

But unfortunately, the RP2000 don't have its own Fx loop...

And what do you think of the PV Classic 50 ???

darren wilson · #11 11-05-2003, 10:00 AM

I really like the Peavey Classic 50/50. It's a pretty good sounding amp, especially for the money. I think mine needs to be re-tubed, though. It has good days and bad days. But when it's good, it's very, very good. And eerily quiet.

gkelm · #12 11-05-2003, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by darren wilson

I really like the Peavey Classic 50/50. It's a pretty good sounding amp, especially for the money. I think mine needs to be re-tubed, though. It has good days and bad days. But when it's good, it's very, very good. And eerily quiet.

I agree...great bargain for a tuber power amp.
Greg