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Old 09-22-2002, 03:52 PM
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Pedal Board Design?


Hi!

I am going to design a pedal board for my DT project. Do you lot think it would be worth it (Could I make it original?). Any ideas would help me (Note-I am not planning to sell it so your ideas are safe-lol). I would appriciate if you could my survey to produce a pedal board that would be popular in a real life situation and include it in my paperwork.

Questions/Survey:

1. What feature(s) would you like in a pedal board most of all?

-Built in tuner/power supply.
-Plec holder
-Storage for leads
-Ajustable Height
-Area to write down set list/settings for pedals
-Other

2. Have you ever bought a pedal board?

3. Would you find it usefull if it could fit into a rack unit?

4. What material would you prefer the box/board be made of of?

-Plastic
-Wood covered in some sort of material.

5. Have you any suggestions on what my pedal board should be like?

6. Would you like features to make it easier to travel the pedal box/board.


Many Thanks
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Old 09-22-2002, 03:54 PM
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BTW- I hope I have put this in the correct forum area, my apoligies to the admins if it is.
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Old 09-22-2002, 09:17 PM
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Re: Pedal Board Design?


Questions/Survey:

1. What feature(s) would you like in a pedal board most of all?

-Built in tuner/power supply. ***
-Plec holder
-Storage for leads
-Ajustable Height
-Area to write down set list/settings for pedals ***
-Other

2. Have you ever bought a pedal board? No

3. Would you find it usefull if it could fit into a rack unit? Maybe

4. What material would you prefer the box/board be made of?

-Plastic
-Wood covered in some sort of material. ***

5. Have you any suggestions on what my pedal board should be like? No.

6. Would you like features to make it easier to travel the pedal box/board.
Don't know.

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Old 09-22-2002, 09:38 PM
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Re: Pedal Board Design?


1. What feature(s) would you like in a pedal board most of all?

-Built in tuner/power supply.
-Rugged, easy to keep clean
-Easy to quickly connect, disconnect, and carry

2. Have you ever bought a pedal board?

Not yet

3. Would you find it usefull if it could fit into a rack unit?

No

4. What material would you prefer the box/board be made of of?

No major preference so long as there is no cloth to get dirty, and good feet on it so it doesn't get scuffed up.

5. Have you any suggestions on what my pedal board should be like?

A basic patch bay could be nice, maybe a light so I can see my pedals on a dark stage.

6. Would you like features to make it easier to travel the pedal box/board.

It would be awesome if there was one that quickly folded up as a suitcase and had a handle built in.
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Old 09-22-2002, 11:42 PM
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In short, this is what I would want for a pedal board http://pedalpad.com/product.htm
One of my buddies just got one. A tad pricey but it sure dose a great job.
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Old 09-23-2002, 09:45 AM
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Cheers all, I will let you know how it turns out in the end. Will post some pics sometime. Anymore comments or opinions are greatly apreciated.

Just seen that pedalpad thing....man that thing looks good. I better make mine to that standard.
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Old 09-23-2002, 02:51 PM
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Try pedalboards.com (PedalRacks). I know the guy and have seen his work. He's great.
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Old 09-24-2002, 12:04 AM
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I had an SKB Ps-25 but it wasn't large enough. I built my own from scratch, but I didn't have access to the proper materials such as extruded aluminum edging and v-channel to make a proper case for it. It was a heavy sonofab!+ch too!

I did some searching on ebay and found a used one of these for sale. I tracked down this website and ordered the standard model with a custom sized upper level. This is the best pedalboard I've ever used. It holds my PedalPower unit under the shelf and extra cables and extension cords in the rear compartment. It takes me about 2 minutes to set up at a gig. That's including the time it takes to find an outlet and unplugging the drummer's fan and the lead singer's make-up mirror!
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Old 09-24-2002, 11:38 PM
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Re: Pedal Board Design?


I did a custom about 6 months ago. I didn't expect it to turn out at all....the silly thing turned out great. I was so willing to believe that it wouldn't work at all that I didn't bother to paint the components and had to go back after a few months and give them a coat because my bandmates thought the wood looked unsightly on stage. I'll try and answer the best I can.


1. What feature(s) would you like in a pedal board most of all?

-Built in tuner/power supply.
-Plec holder
-Storage for leads
-Ajustable Height
-Area to write down set list/settings for pedals
-Other


Ahhh...tuner, yes. I used a powered Boss one so that was big issue. I ended up mounting the pedal with velcro and a power strip witheyehooks and zip-strips.

Pick holder....no. It'd look awkward to bend down on stage and grab for picks. If I needed them I'd have them in one of my pockets, tucked somewhere on the guitar or on a holder on the mic stand.

Storage wasn't as much as an important issue for leads; I made a snake out of the cables I used and had a gear bag that I used for other stuff which it fit in.

Height was a non-issue...it was on the floor and I was stepping on it.

Set lists could (and did) get taped anywhere. I still remember the night my jack-assed friend taped the setlist to the neck of my RG550 thinking he was being funny.

A big issue was portability- getting it on and off the stage between sets and being able to close it up quickly and easily so it could be tossed into a vehicle and not be open. I used clamshell design and wood to make it. It looked like a small coffin but was rugged and portable. I still have it.


2. Have you ever bought a pedal board?


Nope...


3. Would you find it usefull if it could fit into a rack unit?


Not likely. Not every gig is going to involve a rack. Additionally trying to fit things into other things when you have 10 minutes between bands sets just doesn't appeal to me. The one I made I unplugged things, put the cover on and then toss it like a road case.


4. What material would you prefer the box/board be made of of?

-Plastic
-Wood covered in some sort of material.


Plastic is nice but wood is alot more forgiving. You can get away with thinner and cheaper wood as long as you do thing like brace the corners, protect the corners, use lots of securing material and be reasonable about the durability.


5. Have you any suggestions on what my pedal board should be like?


I can't stress enough the importance of it being a traveling case that can be opened on stage with a minimum of fuss. Let the drummers chew through set-up time....I'll go have a beer after everything is plugged in.

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6. Would you like features to make it easier to travel the pedal box/board.[/i]


See above...
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Old 09-25-2002, 03:40 PM
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Skarekrough thanks thats really helpfull. You have helped me a lot..cheers.
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Old 09-26-2002, 10:51 AM
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Skarekrough thanks thats really helpfull. You have helped me a lot..cheers.
Not a problem....

I had a blast making my project. It took a weekend and I really enjoyed being able to actually make something that I'd be gigging out with. The bonus was that it actually survived!

Good luck with it...
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Old 09-26-2002, 11:11 AM
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FWIW here's an old thread re: the board I made a while back.

http://www.jemsite.insomnia-vhosting...ht=pedal+board

Improvements I'd consider to make this better would be:
- upper shelf
- tilt angle slightly
- maybe cord storage
- some type of latching cover
- covered in carpet (I like the clean look/feel of the laminate, but carpet would be more practical)

All the best on your project!
Greg

PS - What's a DT?
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Old 09-26-2002, 03:36 PM
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gkelm: DT is Design and Technology. The subject I am taking in school in the final year. What type of wood did you use?

Many Thanks
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Old 09-26-2002, 04:12 PM
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personally i used to have the skb ps-100. the big one with the 3 rack space. i loved it, but my god it could get heavy. i had it setup to be an all enclosed unit, tho. the only thing that was ever not on the velcro was a digitech control 8 for the rack gear: marshall jfx-1. great pedal board, lots of room and the rack made it perfect. for the rack the main components were a samson power brite power distributor with a flourescent light that would not induce hum and it powered everything with a push of one button. the jfx-1 was a staple and never left the rack used for reverb, chorus and delay. next was depending the phase or problems i was going thru. either a dual 15 band eq, a rocktrom midi pro hush, or a korg dtr-2. whichever one i didn't have in it, i had the pedal equivalent.

Questions/Survey:

1. What feature(s) would you like in a pedal board most of all?

-Built in tuner/power supply. very important, but the boss tu-2 is both.
-Plec holder NO, i have found that dunlop pick holders for mic stands are more versatile and you can put them on other people's stands as well. i used 2 holders, one for my stand and another on either the singer's or by the drums/my amp.
-Storage for leads NOPE. tie wraps, wire loom, velcro, and cable eyes make for a tidy setup not to mention the little plugs and cables for minimum length. most "extra" storage should be with an extra bag seperate to avoid clutter. it's like asking to put your string cutters, strings, screw drivers, batteries, and candy bar on your pedalboard.
-Ajustable Height , not that important unless you have rack gear. needs to be really flat tho. like 1" off the floor is too high.
-Area to write down set list/settings for pedals nope here, too. too much clutter. set lists will change location depending on the gig. the purpose of the pedalboard is to have the minimum of floor space to avoid tripping and accidental switching. some stages will be pretty small and you will want all the room you can get. i use line6 now and sometimes, that's all you really have room for and be comfortable.
-Other- should have velcro/speaker box carpet to hold down pedals. makes swapping and growing and positioning a ton easier.

2. Have you ever bought a pedal board? yup. the ps-100

3. Would you find it usefull if it could fit into a rack unit? for me, if you use a small amount of rack gear like i did. i just wish i had a 4 space at the time.

4. What material would you prefer the box/board be made of of?

-Plastic good if you got the time and tools to mess with it. can get slippery if not made for "real road life".
-Wood covered in some sort of material. wood is better and cheaper. plus its more stury. plastic can slide around if someone feels the need to spill beer around your rig. this goes not only for the audience, but dumbass lead singers, too.

5. Have you any suggestions on what my pedal board should be like? something smaller than 18"x24" with handles and a possible cover of some type. an old duffel/gym bag is great and usually a salvation army/garage sale special. the mounting surface should be speaker box carpet as it takes to the hook side of velcro well. i don't recommend trying to set your pedals into a recessed type pedalboard as it makes them harder to step on and makes them inconsistent to switch. account for your foot size. if you have bigger feet, you'll want to have the pedals farther apart for comfort and less of a chance for an accidental switching of your flanger and distortion.

6. Would you like features to make it easier to travel the pedal box/board. either way is good, but a duffel bag(used as storage, too, if it has more than one pocket) is handy, cuz you can slnig it over your shoulder. load in's are always a bitch, the less trips you can make, the quicker you can get to soundcheck and be out the door.

this has been my overall experience. like i said, i now just use the line6 pedalboard with my flextones and pod, and it has simplified setup from a possible 20 minutes to under 5 minutes. i will sometimes put my bad horsie, PVO volume and a boss ac-2 acoustic simulator pedal out, but i use a carpeted rack cover to mount them on for temporary use. and power them with the visual sound power supply with the optional 4 plug cable. if i use effects for the acoustic sound, i'll just run an alesis nanoverb in the insert for that channel at the board. make life and setup real easy.


rich
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Old 09-26-2002, 05:35 PM
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I second the www.pedalboards.com suggestion. He is the guy that made mine (which is posted in the classified section under the SKB- PS=25 ad.) He has a lot of very good options. Here are a few of them:

-neutrik locking connector on the board for your in/outs. These connect to your pedals so all you have to do is plug your guitar into the board and the board to the amp. The cables are locked in.

-built in collapsible rack
-buit in ac power
-ability to wire board underneath for a sano appearance. My board has this but I didn't wire it that way. Basically the top unscrews and you thread the wires through holes.....My in out are wire that way though.
-raised platforms that can be customized any way. I have two, but they are removeable and not on the board at the moment.
-optional switching systems
-built in mic stands

I would avoid built in effects, tuners or powersupplies in a commercial situation, because many people only want their gear on the board and not be stuck with a tuner, for example, that they don't like.
-heavy duty ATA roadcase design
-Retractable handle and wheels built in to the larger cases.
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