Satch goes back to Marshall amps - Page 3

kotornut · #31 06-25-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eviltwin

not really, athletes GET traded. Because there is no loyalty from team to player, why should the players have any towards the teams?

My athlete analysis was more based on soccer not on the American sports systme of franchising. If you think about it that way you'll see a player pledge his loyalty to a club for instance Christiano Ronaldo for United and then a month or two later be fully for going to Real Madrid.

In Europen soccer, players push for a move themselves all the time even when they are still wanted by the team and fans. But the system is different.

tobias. · #32 06-25-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayrton

Eventually, everyone comes back to Marshall.

…for a good reason…lets be honest - marshall and a ds-1 will ever be the "mother" of all high gain amps…

fretboardpyro · #33 06-25-2009, 03:59 PM

don't be daft it was only a couple of months ago he launched with peavey the 50w jsx. You can guarentee with satch's endorsement there will be creative agreements whereby he can use what ever the hell he wants with no sort of penalisation. At the end of the day satch cant rely upon just one amp to provide the varied variety of sounds he produces.

smooth55 · #34 06-25-2009, 04:29 PM

At first, I was a bit put off by Satch switching over to marshall, and I still think that it knocks the JSX line down a bit in my mind, but then I listened to LISF and I just find his tone better in that concert than anything with the Peavey stuff. If he gets that tone mojo going again, who cares if it's with a Marshall. I do feel bad for Peavey, but I can't see Satch, with his crack legal team already going through one suit, breaching his contractual obligations to them. If it sounds good, it is good...

al. · #35 06-25-2009, 07:19 PM

maybe he just likes the sound of them

either way i much prefare his tones and sounds before the jsx melarky

what a load of nonsence with looking into all this shizzle if you likes the sound of something use it!

rastachild · #36 06-25-2009, 07:36 PM

i dig his recent recorded tones with the jsx (professor satchafunkalistic), but agree his live tone was better with the marshalls imo.

of course satch is free to use whatever amp he wants whenever he wants and probably has even after the inception of the jsx. i think the interesting thing here is the big deal being made about it from marshall and even satch himself. if he was just using marshalls casually, why the big press announcement from marshall, the story about satch trying out marshalls at their headquarters and his quote?

but i'm still interested in the jsx 50w. looking forward to trying it out.

axemanrio · #37 06-25-2009, 08:03 PM

Just back from the London gig, can confirm that Satch has swapped his Peavey cabs out for Marshall... while Manning was setting up Joe's rig I noticed the JVM's were on the verge of break-up. And what an awesome show!!! Mini review and pics/videos tomorrow.

eviltwin · #38 06-26-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kotornut

My athlete analysis was more based on soccer not on the American sports systme of franchising. If you think about it that way you'll see a player pledge his loyalty to a club for instance Christiano Ronaldo for United and then a month or two later be fully for going to Real Madrid.

In Europen soccer, players push for a move themselves all the time even when they are still wanted by the team and fans. But the system is different.

I agree with you that the systems are different, but many of the circumstances are similar:
-lack of loyalty (from players to fans, from player to clubs, from clubs to players or fans etc.)
-overinflated egos
-ambition to be with a winner
-greed

For the specific case of CR, he did get poached by Real, they bought him a $150.000 R8 prior to last season already! He was a simple minded fool to fall for that, as he makes more per week and he's not going to win La Liga next year, never mind the Champion's League.

Some of these problems go hand in hand (sports=entertainment=business=no room for emotional attachment) and some of these you can translate directly to the music industry as well.

I wonder if and what Marshall did to get Satch to switch allegiance... If Joe himself initiated it, that's just as bad. No loyalty=no respect.

BTW instrument companies try to poach artists all the time, building them special instruments and sending them those for free. Even if the artist is already under contract with another company.

kotornut · #39 06-26-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eviltwin

BTW instrument companies try to poach artists all the time, building them special instruments and sending them those for free. Even if the artist is already under contract with another company.

On that note I've always kind of respected those players that were openly, "anything and everything," players like Joe Perry. He's had a sig here and there but it's never been the only thing he plays and it was clear that he was going to use a lot of things. Alex Lifeson too, he's about the same in my opinon, Jimmy Page as well.

They have or have had signatures, but it was never as if it's all they use. It was like the Gibson inspired by series. It's just one of the guitars they're known for playing. Joe Bonamassa is a new guy doing the same thing.

Satch had his name and hand in developing the JSX. He's on the record as sayig it's all he used live and so on. Now he's wishy washy. I just think that people should just learn not to get into commitments that they might get tired of. If I was big enough or good enough to be in these guy's shoes I'd have to pass on a lot of endorsement type deals because I know I'd be all about a super strat for a year and then the next be all about a Les Paul or something vintage the next year.

Just recently this happened. I've been in love with my RG for a year solid but now I want a mahogany body with a maple cap, mahogany neck and a hard tail... and you know, even thought about getting a trade going on. I don't know why it comes and goes, but if I had the money and if I was in the position to go witht he urge I'd have to be an idiot to sign up as a, "I'm only gonna play this," guy.

Who knows, maybe the contracts are really as loose as that and the media or the companies themselves blow these things out of proportion. I could see that happening. Anyways, Satch can play what he likes, but he should be honest about it. And this could all be just a bunch of hype I'm sure.

smooth55 · #40 06-26-2009, 12:29 PM

Satch can play what he wants, but his comments that smack of marketing strategy. With his JSX line, you got the impression that he was being somewhat sincere in his praise of the amps. He took a lot of time with the amps and pedals he's produced to tweak their sounds to his taste. Looking back under these circumstances, taking nothing away from the quality of the products (almost all of which have been received positively and seen as good quality), it all looks like marketting whether for Peavey then or now Marshall. Satch is selling himself to sell amps/etc. because people will buy stuff if he says it's awesome and he in turn gets more royalties and contracts for his salesmanship. End of Story. This shouldn't take away from his previous amps/pedals quality nor his own personal appeal although I think it will to an extent. I hope it does for the amps, maybe I can then afford one...

**jono** · #41 06-26-2009, 06:42 PM

I have to say that I always respected the fact that whenever you saw Satch on tour he was always using a JS. I know he has a great guitar collection and uses all sorts in the studio, but you associate him with the JS. I like it when gear become signature not just in name but also by association, that's TRUE signature gear

I figured he'd do the same with the JSX.

I'm not bothered by it, I just find it interesting. I would be more bothered if he started using Strats on stage, maybe beause I own the JS guitars, but not the amp?

rastachild · #42 06-26-2009, 06:53 PM

also keep in mind that satch is using the marshalls on tour...not necessarily officially endorsing them. what i mean is, he may not even be getting paid a cent. marshall is hooking him up for the tour, providing amps, but those are probably on loan. even gilbert, who is officially with marshall, has to pay for his amps (if you believe what he has said, which i do). i can't see satch really getting paid out of this deal unless marshall designs a signature satch amp. i still think the story is that satch wanted a distinct marshall tone for the chickenfoot gig that he couldn't get from his amp, so he went and got himself a marshall for the tour. is a guitarist not allowed to ever change his mind about gear? i hope not, otherwise we're all guilty.

HeavyMetal4Ever · #43 06-27-2009, 11:53 AM

I'll be interested to find out what amp(s) he uses on his next solo disc....

Rock on!

waylay00 · #44 06-27-2009, 01:26 PM

This is great. Satriani belongs with Marshall.

karimagus · #45 06-27-2009, 01:43 PM

Wow thanks for the news, I personnally think the choice is wise although this sudden shift is probably more related to business than to wisdom... I'm still surprised though and I bet Peavey's gonna try to find an appropriate replacement for this huge gap :/