speakers..

[millzy]

im about to change the speakers in my valveking 212 as i find them to lack warmth and roundness and incredibly brittle sounding, ive decided on celestions

these are the choices i narrowed it down to...
1,G12t-75- yngwie uses this one and its the best selling speaker, 75 watts
2,classic lead-speed, punchy and lively dynamics, 50 watts
3,vintage 30, 30 watts
4, G12M-25 (Greenbacks)- used by vai, incredibly popular, 25 watts

any suggestions for appropirate wattage and everything and sound, im looking for a smooth round tone...vai mixed with petrucci with some van halen punch and lively dynamics...big ask i know

[Darin]

I vote the v30's. they even wake up early and make your coffee.

[millzy]

oh really, im on the same level with you darin, but the others are still there nudging on my mind..its a great speaker but does it have the right sound im after?

[Darin]

The speaker is what the mic hears, the cab with the speaker is what you hear in the room. all cabs sound different, even with he same speakers. it like guitars. 5 of the same guitar can all sound different. best to take your head in the the music store and demo cabs.

[millzy]

there are rather the limited stores where i live if im honest, just a few but im just looking to buy these speakers. i shant be using a mic so that means nothing, the cab is just a small combo amplifier, im sure different speakers would make a difference

[Darin]

have you tried a youtube search? there may be demos of different speakers on there.

[screamndemon69]

Originally Posted by millzy

im sure different speakers would make a difference

They make ALL the difference

There is a Mesa 2x12 cab in my local store with V30's that I've been considering. I would probably be better off adding a pair of them to one of my current cabs than buying a new cab though. They are offering the cab up for $440 when they normally go for $559 which is what got my attention.

Good luck on your quest.

cheers,

Bones

[varador]

g12t 75's are used for metal aren't they? i think there's a snippet of kerry ****ing king praising them on the celestion website

either way... didn't know yngwie used them too...

[millzy]

ohaye, big kerry but his tone isnt really what im looking for to be honest..
so the rest think v30's are great then???
what about the classic lead or the greenbacks, but those two are weird cusa wattage and they might not work etc etc

[millzy]

and to Darin, there are demo's on the celestion website

[ScottB]

The V30 is 60 watts.

The G12T-75 is one of my favorite speakers for hard rock / metal. It comes standard in the 1960A and 1960B Marshall cabs.

[millzy]

oh thats cool, im more looking for that kinda stuff their ^^ but with a smoother lead tone, satriani, vai, petrucci etc
apparently the v30 tanks in this area
but i am a hard rock/ metal player, but im direly looking for the guitarists tone with vai etc etc!?

[lemongrass]

+1 for V30's.
When I get around to buying a new 412 it will definitely have V30's - a smoother tone than the 75's.

[millzy]

oh cool, im looking for a smoother more lucious sound, the valveking speakers are horrid, very twangy and brittle, so V30's then?

[sleepyone]

Tried my new valve head with a G12T-75 loaded 2x12 vs a V30 loaded 2x12...V30 all the way, more "open" sounding, more in your face, more definition and balls, G12T-75 sounded a little fizzy for my taste.