*Spider II*

[bonehead189]

I am looking at buying a small 112 Spider II combo amp from Line 6. It has 12 amp models, 7 effects, and 4 User programmable channels with a built-in front panel tuner. It's a small 75 watt package. I was wondering if there were any better or similar combos as the Spider II, within the price range of $250-$450. Please help, any info/advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

[lyconxero]

I have that exact same amp and it kicks ass. I played MANY MANY MANY amps in that same general price range $100-$500 and none of them even came close to the Spider II. Not to say that there aren't better amps out there than the Spider II, but you'll be hard pressed to find one with better tone in that price range.

Just my $.02

[ElectriK]

spider 2s suck IMO. they sound way to digital and processed. A roland cube 60 or Peavey Bandit would be better for the price.

[Ozzdoc]

flextones are much better...but more expensive.

Maybe consider a flextone.

[Polaris20]

Originally Posted by ElectriK

spider 2s suck IMO. they sound way to digital and processed. A roland cube 60 or Peavey Bandit would be better for the price.

I can understand saying a real tube is better than a Spider II, but a cube 60 or Bandit? YIKES!

[lyconxero]

Yeah, seriously. I've owned both a cube 30 and a cube 60 and the Spider II's totally blow them out the water. I mean, it's not even close. But I guess it's all about your personal opinion. I would just say to go to like Guitar Center or wherever and play a bunch of different guitars on a few different amps including the Spider II and see which ones you like the best. Just going by what the amp says it can do really won't do you any good if you've never played one and really dialed into it.

[bonehead189]

I've played the Spider II at Guitar Center. I haven't yet played the Roland Cube 60, although I have seen great reviews on it. If anyone has sound clips using the Roland Cube 60 (not the product demos, acutal live clips) please post them.The Spider II seems like it's the best in it's price range and class. It has more amp models than the Roland Cube 60. Spider II = 12 Models. Cube 60 = 9 Models. If the sound does seem modeled, I'll just be happy with the amp (period)! Best in it's class with great reviews, nothing can really get any better than that...unless there are more amps in this class/price range with similar features? Thanks

[goofy913]

if i were you i would look for used tube amps i just bought a 1984 120w Peavey Heritage VTX for 270 dollars and it sounds great and will last a long time

[j.arledge]

the roland cubes are great little amps.

and yes i would also check into maybe an older used tube combo, and even if you didn't like the distortion or if it even had distortion you could buy a nice pedal .

it really depends on what music your planning on playing as to what the best one is.

The vox valvetronics combos are a good vaule, espically if you have a nice overdrive pedal, i took my homemade overdriver to my local shop and plugged into one and it got realy good gain, i wasn't crazy about the vox's sound on it's own though.

for 389 you could get a fender ultimate chorus from ww-w.guitar^trader.-co-m (just take out all the little - and ^)

[goofy913]

jra you can make overdrive pedals?

[ElectriK]

Originally Posted by Polaris20

I can understand saying a real tube is better than a Spider II, but a cube 60 or Bandit? YIKES!

Yes, the cube is great, the amp models and effects dont sound so processed and fake. I cannot stand the sound of spiders, but maybe thats just me

[j.arledge]

Originally Posted by goofy913

jra you can make overdrive pedals?

yeah , i made a pedal, it was my first one, next i am going to make an mxr disortion plus and the hornet. my morley wah crappy out so i am going to put 2 distorotions in the same case .


back to the point, i agree with ElectriK, i hate how fake and digital sounding the spiders are.

peavey has the new valve king 1x12 combo. It is 50 watts tube power and only 350$. Very cheap for a tube combo, i just dont know what they sound like . It's a peavey though and so i am sure i'll like it.

[bonehead189]

Anyone have any sound clips of these amps (Cube 60, Spider II, or ValveKing)? I'd like to see how they sound so I can compare. Thanks

[goofy913]

for the spider go to line6.com the have a few

[bonehead189]

Are there any for the ValveKing?