The reason i cant buy dimarzio cliplock from USA

superhairycamel · #1 06-26-2008, 06:42 AM

Hi there, i live in australia and me and some of my mates want to buy dimarzio cliplock straps.

all american music online stores are saying they cannot or do not ship internationally.
i think the reason for this is so that australian retailers can continue to charge huge prices easily upwards of $40 AUD to consumers.
the US dollar is so weak that i could (well not really but hypothetically) buy one of these straps for around $17 AUD + Shipping which is a hell of a lot less than over here.

and i havent even seen any coloured ones in AUS.

Is there another reason for this apparrent ban?

thanks

**elcid** · #2 06-26-2008, 07:19 AM

Im sure there is more to it than a conspiracy to let the Australian music stores screw you. I would also imagine that the reason things are more expensive in Australia is becuase the retailers pay more to get them shipped there than US Retailers pay.

axemanrio · #3 06-26-2008, 07:42 AM

DiMarzio prohibits all dealers from shipping DiMarzio pickups outside the US. Online stores like m123 and mf do not ship outside the US, but I'm sure a fleabay seller will be happy to ship you straps man.

superhairycamel · #4 06-26-2008, 08:27 AM

afraid not axemanrio!

the only store in the US (That i saw) who sells says he cannot sell "Fender or Dimarzio" products internationally!

barbarelaxe · #5 06-26-2008, 08:50 AM

Dimarzio, or any other international company in any area, does not want US vendor selling to any overseas clients because they don't want their overseas vendors buisnenss be effected by this. If we all buy Dimarzio pickups and accessories from the states then local Dimarzio vendors in our countries will have no income and will end up stop being Dimarzio dealers and Dimarzio headquarter does not want that to happen.
For example, something that happened here in Israel not long ago. HP worldwide found out that Israeli HP branch was selling HP servers to european companies offering them lower prices then the HP european vendors. They came to Israel and all the mangers of the Israeli HP branch were fired.

wandereruk05 · #6 06-26-2008, 08:57 AM

yeah i had the same problem trying to buy from an evilbay store that was independant - what a crock.

so basically what i'm looking at is if i want a new pup or something its a minimum of £55 new (thats off the bay) which is nigh on US$100. If they lifted their 'sanction' I could pay the fair price that everyone else in the US gets ($50-60 or £30)

and barbarelaxe thats all well and good but as above - i'm getting f**ked to try and pay a fair price and i'm sure most peole (myself included) would much rather wait a bit longer and pay a fair price for the same product?Just glad that most people who sell on here are happy to send to UK or I'd be getting bent over and taken advantage over many times over.

axemanrio · #7 06-26-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by barbarelaxe

Dimarzio, or any other international company in any area, does not want US vendor selling to any overseas clients because they don't want their overseas vendors buisnenss be effected by this. If we all buy Dimarzio pickups and accessories from the states then local Dimarzio vendors in our countries will have no income and will end up stop being Dimarzio dealers and Dimarzio headquarter does not want that to happen.

That's obvious, but the outrageous prices are forcing us to buy used/new pickups from other guitarists in the US. They'd sell a lot more if prices weren't 2x here - example, £80 for a D-Sonic, which is about $162.

barbarelaxe · #8 06-26-2008, 09:03 AM

private sellers that sell their used pickups will probably be happy to ship to the UK, at least some of them will. they are not under any obligation to Dimarzio. only problem is that parivate sellers don't always have exactly what you want.

wandereruk05 · #9 06-26-2008, 09:09 AM

that's true - but as a consumer I don't think its fair that I get charged 2-3 times as much as someone a couple of thousand of miles away. even with the extra shipping cost it still works out cheaper than me buying new over here.

something we just have to live with i guess

barbarelaxe · #10 06-26-2008, 09:11 AM

I'm not familiar on customs policy regarding music instruments related stuff in the UK, but if it costs twice then they cost in the states, I assume they are heavily taxed. UK members have the same complaints regarding guitars right?

axemanrio · #11 06-26-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wandereruk05

that's true - but as a consumer I don't think its fair that I get charged 2-3 times as much as someone a couple of thousand of miles away. even with the extra shipping cost it still works out cheaper than me buying new over here.

something we just have to live with i guess

We've all found alternatives, and guess what, DiMarzio UK is not one of them.

Tank · #12 06-26-2008, 09:13 AM

There is a reason for the ban: You should buy Schaller Sec. Locks anyways and they want to protect you from cliplocks...

barbarelaxe · #13 06-26-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wandereruk05

that's true - but as a consumer I don't think its fair that I get charged 2-3 times as much

That's business. fair does not exists in their vocabulary. What I did once is that I called DIMARZIO US to the phone number on their website and explained that the local vendor does not have what I need and they were happy to send it to me. I had to pay retail price which is higher then what you can get from E B A Y sellers and you need a creadit card to pay them with.

wandereruk05 · #14 06-26-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by barbarelaxe

I'm not familiar on customs policy regarding music instruments related stuff in the UK, but if it costs twice then they cost in the states, I assume they are heavily taxed. UK members have the same complaints regarding guitars right?

yeah - for the same price you buy guitars over here you can get them for the same value dollar wise - example:

JS1000 (when i was looking at buying) was £1000 min on websites new - from US sites $1200 on some

kotornut · #15 06-26-2008, 12:56 PM

I feel your pain superhairy. Here in Japan stuff from the States is rediculously expensive too. DiMarzios and any pickups being astronomical. Not only that, but any quality guitar cable in excess of 10 feet (3 meters) is about ￥10,000　($100 US). I usually have my pops order stuff for me and then ship it out to me. That's cheaper but way more hassle. I can't send anything back or use any of the waranties on anything because of the time and cost of shipping things back and fourth.

But, I do have to admit that they do have to do a bit of market protection. A lot of buisnesses would go under if everyone ordered everything from the States. Not to mention that there would be a lot less home grown guitar resources like ET guitars in Aus and Bare Knuckle pickups in the UK and Edwards here. The big guitar giants in the States could have quashed the competition internationally when everything first began if it was so simple as just buying it cheaper from the States.