This is what I feel the Ultimate tone machine is. - Is this

[Anonymous]

The GZeus Preamp:
The Tone for the Up and Coming Guitar Deity.

The preamp stage:

6 12ax7(or whatever tubes you prefer), all for the preamp section. Completely adjustable number of gain stages, level between each stage, and individual voltage adjustment. If you want to go completely insane, add series/parallel. What I mean is, you can have both stage 4 and 5, 5 with a bit more voltage and a little less gain, running into stage six. Put a few flavors of EQ, active passive, graphic, parametric, all adjustable next.
Add a loop if you want one, I don't.
And now for the "power tube" section:
8 slots, each with their own manual/auto bias, and power attenuator. The power attenuator should bring the output of each tube to LINE LEVEL without coloring the tone excessively. Repeat all of the options listed in the preamp section. Including series/parallel routing. Mutliple stages of power tube saturation! If you opt to not use all the 'power' stages, you can use the individual tube's power to run cabinets(or not, I'm not too sure about this idea). This section will have it's own EQ section, just as comprehensive.
After this, don't put a 'cabinet simulator.' Put an extremely powerful filter(bandpass, bandreject, high/lowpass,) and overall tone shaping section. Whole NEW direct tones. I've used too much brain power creating this science fiction machine in my head to expand on this section.
I want both manual and MIDI controlled versions of this all tube preamp.
The unfiltered sound would be run into high fidelity, high effieciency solid state power amps, then into your favorite speaker cabinet for freakish amazing tone at any volume. The filtered section would be run direct. The only thing this wouldn't cover for me is the sound of driven cabinet speakers, and speaker cabinets. Oh well. I still want one.

If you think this is a good idea, and want to make it, or get rich and famous, and have it made, all I want is to have one, a have my name on it. Not money.

This thing reminds me of the 9 string bass I saw on bunnybass.com. OVERKILL. SPINAL TAP. Plug a Tufnel Signature into this baby.

PS, I'd use Peavey power amps, for the Resonance control, very useful.


(Edited by GZeusEcchiQryst at 2:01 am on July 14, 2001)

[jay ratkowski]

I'd use Rocktron over Peavey for power amps.

Also... that's like saying "what is your ultimate car?" *and saying... "oh just combine a viper, F350, Caravan, Civic, etc" *

Sure that'd be cool, but it's rather unrealistic just because it'd have to be like 4 rack spaces if not more. *Come up with a prototype and we'll talk. *

[jay ratkowski]

Also, Conlklin makes a 9-string bass that I consider to be very playable and usable. *Just food for thought.

[one less than none]

the closest preamp i can thing of to that is the lexicon signature, and that aint to close.

Does have a power amp section and outputs at line level post power amp, i agree that would be a fantastic bit of kit

(Edited by one less than none at 5:17 am on July 14, 2001)

[Anonymous]

Quote: from jay ratkowski on 3:06 am on July 14, 2001
I'd use Rocktron over Peavey for power amps.

Ok.

Also... that's like saying "what is your ultimate car?" *and saying... "oh just combine a viper, F350, Caravan, Civic, etc" *

No, I'd have said, "Mix a 5150 with that one laney and a dual rectfier, and a VTM." I was trying to be as specific as I could.
I pictured al least 6 full rack spaces, and I don't care how many spaces, you'd have any amp you wanted right there. I didn't say it was realistic, I called it SPINAL TAP.
2 things I forgot:
Overall preamp voicing controls. Like basic hi/lo tone between stages. I just realised you'd probably need 12ax7 type phase spitter or what have you tubes between 'power' tubes. There's a few more controls, how hard you drive the 12ax7 there, how hard it drives the power tube. Or am I stupid here, do you need a 12ax7 there?
The reason I mentioned the 9 string is because ti was made just out of spite, people were buying multi stringed basses just to ****
each other off, so one had a 9 string made. The builder's face in the picture holding it looks somewhat disgusted. If I had this thing made, I'd have that look on my face, too. "Oh, my GOD! What have I DONE!?"

[Anonymous]

OO! and all but the EQ controls would be mini knobs, with alot of resistance, so you'd have trouble goofing up. Put those under little metal covers with locks(don't lose the key!). Maybe hex key controls, but then you could strip them...
Master Gain, to control the overall gain of the preamp you 'designed.'
Master Volume, for the preamp section.
Master Master Volume(goes to 11!) for the final volume.
Chicken head knobs on the masters and passive tone controls.
DLX model, 2 channels, and a little sticker that says "No MIDI".
Clean switch for both sections. Reduces gain stages to 1 on each section.
Footswitchable channels and clean switches.
Of course the midi version would be different.
Brushed aluminum face.

[Anonymous]

Man, all the custom shops I see on the web are like, class A, NOS, we don't use chinese parts, this is better than a blackface type places.
Damn.
Dont' people realize that death metal punks can be tone freaks, too?
Or am I the only one?

(Edited by GZeusEcchiQryst at 2:25 pm on July 14, 2001)

[jeffrey]

Quote: from jay ratkowski on 1:06 am on July 14, 2001

Sure that'd be cool, but it's rather unrealistic just because it'd have to be like 4 rack spaces if not more. *Come up with a prototype and we'll talk. *

4 rack spaces? That's a bargain for all that. I don't care if it took up 6, it'd still be worth it.

Big racks are easier to get then good tone.