Tuners in signal chain

kpinks · #1 05-18-2008, 01:15 AM

Just wondering if anyone knew where exactly in the signal chain, should the tuner be? Currently, I have the guitar going into the tuner first and then on to the rest. But I was considering moving the tuner down later in the chain?
Thx
Kev

rty13ibz98 · #2 05-18-2008, 01:25 AM

it usually goes first, so as to get the unaltered guitar signal. also, some tuners, like the tu-2, can be used to kill the signal from the guitar. not a rule, just a typical.

rich

Darin · #3 05-18-2008, 11:17 AM

I run it at the end, so when I mute, any gain pedals will be muted as well, and not bleeding noise into the PA.

Also, since I run a compressor, it helps keep the signal strong into the tuner.

bammbamm · #4 05-18-2008, 12:12 PM

I have a rack system and run my tuner from the recording output of my preamp.
That keeps it out of the chain and does what I need it to do... NOT COLOR MY SOUND.
If you're running pedals, you could run out from an unused stereo output of another pedal, if you don't want it inline with your signal.

kotornut · #5 05-18-2008, 12:18 PM

I usually run it first. I don't know why. Maybe I used to think that effects would hinder my ability to tune so I did that. I don't think distortion or delay would hinder itmuch and that's all I use now but oh well it works well there.

Darin · #6 05-18-2008, 01:39 PM

if your tuner is coloring your sound, you need a new tuner

**jemaholic** · #7 05-18-2008, 09:21 PM

Tuners destroy your tone. I pulled my Planet Waves for a Boss, that sucked so I pulled it and went for a Peterson. THAT sucked my tone so now I fly solo.
I keep a spare tuner with a short cord on hand when needed.

kotornut · #8 05-18-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Darin

if your tuner is coloring your sound, you need a new tuner

If you're reffering to me:

I don't think it is. I can't hear any difference. I think people are a little overboard on the "kill your tone," thing.

Mr.WizardNeck · #9 05-19-2008, 12:01 AM

How the hell does a tuner mess with your tune when it's true bypass?

kotornut · #10 05-19-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.WizardNeck

How the hell does a tuner mess with your tune when it's true bypass?

That's what I want to know. I seriously think most of the "it kills your tone," stuff is just bandwaggoning.

Toadfish · #11 05-19-2008, 02:54 PM

I have a Peterson on my board - last in the chain - and it works great. Not tone suckage to my ears. I use the gain from my amp, so I'm sending it a pretty clean signal anyway.

Mr.WizardNeck · #12 05-20-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toadfish

I have a Peterson on my board - last in the chain - and it works great. Not tone suckage to my ears. I use the gain from my amp, so I'm sending it a pretty clean signal anyway.

That's what my roomie uses and it's pretty damn nice.

bammbamm · #13 05-20-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kotornut

That's what I want to know. I seriously think most of the "it kills your tone," stuff is just bandwaggoning.

No, it isn't, I can clearly discern a difference if it's in line with my signal chain.
Why run your signal though a device if you don't have to?
And who says your tuner is "True Bypass"?
I have had Korgs, Boss, Arion, Sabine, etc, I don't keep them in the signal chain.
No need. I have a line out that works fine and it's one less thing I have to troubleshoot should there be an issue.
I'm not a bandwagon kinda person, don't be an anti-bandwagon person, especially if the wagon is headed toward a place with better tone...

Repner · #14 05-20-2008, 02:45 PM

I heard that the Korg DTR-1 and DTR-2 can be quite noisy. The DTR-1000 and DTR-2000 seemed to solve that problem.

That's just what I've heard though. I haven't tried them myself

microdmitry · #15 05-20-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.WizardNeck

How the hell does a tuner mess with your tune when it's true bypass?

I don't know how, but my Peterson Strobo Stomp totally sucks all life out of the guitar when it's in the chain. Yes, I know it's true bypass, yet it lowers the signal level somehow. I've discovered this when I built my pedalboard. The intention was to keep it first in the chain and just engage it as needed. Once I assembled everything together, it sounded like ass. No gain, no life, nothing. Naturally, the tuner being true bypass, I blamed my BOSS pedals and Ibanez wah immediately, so I started removing them one by one. In the end I was left with just the tuner in the chain and it killed everything.

I need to open it up and see what the heck is going on. It's probably their "direct" XLR output circuitry that's messing with the signal.