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Old 03-06-2008, 01:14 AM
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Which Distortion, Delay.....


I'm investing in some pedals

now, I'm definatly going to get a distortion pedal, maybe the DS1?.. which other do you guys recommend?
I'm also looking to get a delay pedal, possibly the DD6, since it's such a famous delay pedal... but I also want something that emulates the maestro echoplex tape echo.. since I can't afford an Actual echoplex . There's the Line 6 DL4, but I've never heard the tape echo on that... what do you guys think?

also, I've heard good things about the MXr phase... what you guys think?
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:45 AM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


There's lots of things to think about:

What tones or sounds are you wanting or needing? Here's what I run into a few different tube amps (just finished cleaning it up and taking these pics):



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Old 03-06-2008, 10:58 AM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


I love pedal pads.
I've never had to use an overdrive pedal for my Mesa, but I have a DD-6 and it's alright. It sits more in my graveyard rather than in my chain. How is that EVH Phase 90? I've have also been contemplating a phaser. I've got a TC Electronic Chorus/Flange, but that's more for the chorus.
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:10 AM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


I have a DD-6 and it's a good pedal for the money and for one delay sound at a time. I have used the DL-4 a lot and it's better so I would recommend that over the DD-6. After those two I don't have enough experience with other delay pedals to recomend anything.

I really need to get a better pedal board seeing that pedal pad reminds me. Mine is crap, I'm thinking of getting a Pedal Train, but I don't knwo yet.
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Old 03-06-2008, 12:52 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


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I love pedal pads.
I've never had to use an overdrive pedal for my Mesa, but I have a DD-6 and it's alright. It sits more in my graveyard rather than in my chain. How is that EVH Phase 90? I've have also been contemplating a phaser. I've got a TC Electronic Chorus/Flange, but that's more for the chorus.
I bought my Mesa F-50 for a few reasons but one of which is the distortion channel in case (knock on wood) my pedal board went down at a gig (hasn't happened yet luckily). I would still have no trouble getting thru the gig with the amps two channles and footswitchable lead boost. I would just stick to clean tube amps otherwise since the ToneBone has all the gain I could ever ask for.

The DD-20 is my favorite delay with all the features they packed into it. I wouldn't want to use anything else. I'm getting a second one for a backup and to use in my teaching studio for the phrase sampler feature (sound on sound).

The Phase 90 is a great pedal with THE phaser sound for me. I've tried many other phase pedals and keep coming back to the 90 time and time again. The EVH version just looks cool and has a VERY bright blue LED (blue lights are uber cool to me!). You'd be fine to nab the far less expensive version unless you are like me and love the EVH housing and blue LED.

It is almost like a "fill the dance floor EASY button" when I use it on songs like Cocaine or the clean passage in Arms Wide open. It definitely adds an extra sexxiness to my sound that seems to subliminally makes the ladies want to shake their money maker and nearly force the bar to mop the dance floor after the song(s) over

The only pedals I'd like to add are a tube vibrato/tremolo (Guyatone VT-X) and a tube driven Leslie pedal (H&K Rotosphere) but there just isn't enough space to add both right now and it would end up shelling out almost $700 for both of those pedals new. I'll figure out how to make it happen and add them to my stage setup before long

~Bones
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:23 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....




Distortion = Tone Bone Classic or Fulldrive 2

Delay
Line 6 Echo Park


EDIT:Changed to current pic

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Old 03-06-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


Cid, why have the reissue TS AND the Fulltone 2?

What MXR Zakk pedal is that, a distortion?

What's your thoughts on the Loop Station, TR-2 and the Peterson?

Yeah, lots of questions but you seem to give out no BS opinions on the gear you use. Thanks.

~Bones
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


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I'm investing in some pedals

now, I'm definatly going to get a distortion pedal, maybe the DS1?.. which other do you guys recommend?
I'm also looking to get a delay pedal, possibly the DD6, since it's such a famous delay pedal... but I also want something that emulates the maestro echoplex tape echo.. since I can't afford an Actual echoplex . There's the Line 6 DL4, but I've never heard the tape echo on that... what do you guys think?

also, I've heard good things about the MXr phase... what you guys think?
How much money did you plan on spending?

I bought the "Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man with Hazarai" delay pedal and I think it's the best sounding delay out there. It has a filter on it so that you can emulate tape delay if you wish, and you can select a more discrete delay or a more reberberant delay using the Decay knob. It's digital, but it can sound very, very warm and vintage. It has stereo in's and out's, and it has a tap tempo to time your delays to your playing. Also, it has "reverse guitar" on it. A bit expensive, but a very neat pedal.

The other one I'd try is the Line 6 Echo Park delay.
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


I have owned both the DD6 and the DL4

There are more features and a greater variety of tones on the line six one.
Before it died on me i used it exclusively! the only problem being... well it died on me! so now i'm happy with the DD6.

DD6 doesnt offer that much in the way of features but what it does it does do damn well.
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:45 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


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Cid, why have the reissue TS AND the Fulltone 2?

What MXR Zakk pedal is that, a distortion?

What's your thoughts on the Loop Station, TR-2 and the Peterson?

Yeah, lots of questions but you seem to give out no BS opinions on the gear you use. Thanks.

~Bones

I dont have the TS and Fulltone on there anymore, it's just an old pic. I had them both on there just to keep my pedals together and so when I used different amps I had different overdrives available without having to redesign the board each time. The MXR is the Zakk OD, it is also not currently on the board.

The Loop Station is a cool pedal, my biggest complaint about it is it does not have multiple outs. It would be really nice if it had a through for the regualr guitar playing and a separate out for the loop so you could send it to a different amp.

The TR-2 is ok, it may be up for sale soon. I have no complaints about it I just barely use it. it was more of an impulse buy than anything. I think I am going to replace it with a Fulltone Mini Vibe if I can bring myself to cough up the $250 for it.

The Peterson is a great tuner, but it is extremely sensitive. As dumb as it sounds there is a learning curve to it. It's very accurate and it works as a DI box if need be. You can even program it for diffferent tunings. It's a little pricy, but if I had to, I would buy another one.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:48 AM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


Thanks for answering all my questions Cid

Is the Peterson able to stay "ON" without being muted as well as being able to mute while tuning? I just wish the TU-2 had the ability to read my tuning while NOT muted, but it doesn't have that feature. You HAVE to mute to use the tuner.

Is the housing really sturdy as well as the switch on the Peterson? I heard the housing is plastic and that kept me away from the Peterson when I bought my last tuner (TU-2). I already have a decent Sabine 1100 for home and studio use but the Peterson is supposed to be a very accurate tuner, from what I've heard/read, for the $.

I'm sure the Fulltone mini vibe is nice but have you checked out the Guyatone VT-X? The sound clips sounded great and it has a real 12ax7 for around $179. I've been researching tremolo and vibrato pedals for awhile but never ran across the Fulltone series. I'll have to check those out. I am impressed with the Guyatone and all the reviews are positive and the price won't break the bank. We'll see what comes down the pike over the coming months to fill that spot on my board.

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Old 03-07-2008, 01:05 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


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Thanks for answering all my questions Cid

Is the Peterson able to stay "ON" without being muted as well as being able to mute while tuning? I just wish the TU-2 had the ability to read my tuning while NOT muted, but it doesn't have that feature. You HAVE to mute to use the tuner.

Is the housing really sturdy as well as the switch on the Peterson? I heard the housing is plastic and that kept me away from the Peterson when I bought my last tuner (TU-2). I already have a decent Sabine 1100 for home and studio use but the Peterson is supposed to be a very accurate tuner, from what I've heard/read, for the $.

I'm sure the Fulltone mini vibe is nice but have you checked out the Guyatone VT-X? The sound clips sounded great and it has a real 12ax7 for around $179. I've been researching tremolo and vibrato pedals for awhile but never ran across the Fulltone series. I'll have to check those out. I am impressed with the Guyatone and all the reviews are positive and the price won't break the bank. We'll see what comes down the pike over the coming months to fill that spot on my board.
actually, todd, the tu-2 has a stay on mode, its just the other output jack. i have 2 tu-2's and that's what they have.


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Old 03-07-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


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Thanks for answering all my questions Cid

Is the Peterson able to stay "ON" without being muted as well as being able to mute while tuning? I just wish the TU-2 had the ability to read my tuning while NOT muted, but it doesn't have that feature. You HAVE to mute to use the tuner.

Is the housing really sturdy as well as the switch on the Peterson? I heard the housing is plastic and that kept me away from the Peterson when I bought my last tuner (TU-2). I already have a decent Sabine 1100 for home and studio use but the Peterson is supposed to be a very accurate tuner, from what I've heard/read, for the $.
Im not sure about the muting thing, I will look into it. I run from my Loooper's dedicated tuner out to the Peterson, so it gets muted there. Since you can use the Peterson as a DI box though, I would imagine you could leave the tuner portion on while playing. As for it being sturdy, I'm completely comfortable taking it out to bars or where ever to jam, but I keep all my pedals on that board so it's pretty well protected.
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Old 03-07-2008, 06:34 PM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


with the tu2, if you plug your output cable into the bypass on the pedal, the tuner can remain on while the signal is untouched
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Old 03-08-2008, 11:35 AM
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Re: Which Distortion, Delay.....


What they said. You could always plug the peterson into a volume pedal bypass too -- if you have one of course.
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