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Old 09-09-2005, 06:05 PM
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Suggestion from a Scamee


I am sure that you buyers will be safe, atleast from the seller who scammed me if you follow these buying rules.

1 - Simply dont buy ANYTHING from a seller with a suspicious guitar oriented email offering a guitar for a too good to be true price, and who is from Brazil.

2 - Referances mean nothing, bunch of fake emails the scammer could email you back with claiming to have boughten something from himself and was happy with the trade...

3 - Try hard to find the pictures the person sends to you on the internet, if you can find them, there is no excuse for the person copying someone elses pictures... No pictures... well who would buy a guitar from just a description...

4 - If the person says they cant post the item in an online auction for you to buy it safely, dont even write back...

5 - Different paypal accounts offered to you requesting payment, if several paypal accounts are offered to you, most likely a scam...

Basically, dont be desperate and have faith in people, thats what I did and im out 800 bucks because of it... Following these rules will surely keep you safe from making the mistake I did...
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:17 PM
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Re: Suggestion from a Scamee


Sucks dude! Ouch
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:28 PM
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Re: Suggestion from a Scamee


* demand they email you from their ISP email to verify their location. If he's at work tell him to do it when he gets home. EVERYONE online requires an ISP and they all come with email addy's. Yahoo, hotmail and other anonymous email accounts are perfect tools for con-artist's.

* mandate NEW pictures with an identifier, such as a note "PICS FOR GLEN C." in each picture. Have them print your email and put that partially visible below the fretboard (ie. can't be photoshopped). Have them put a post-it note with today's date somewhere else ON EACH PICTURE.

* get all the info (name, home addy, work addy, home phone, work phone, cell phone. google it and google map it. check if it's a legitimate residential street addy, etc. call the local police if necessary to verify the address.

* tell the user you need his IP addy. get that here:
http://myipaddress.com/
or
http://www.whatismyip.com/

* from there lookup his IP here a:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation

* compare the IP coming from his email headers

* no western union

* tell them you want to use escrow.com service and see if they back out (even if you dont want to use one).

*if you bank transfer get the local # to the bank, verify the bank online, including phone # and CALL THEM.

I will update the "buying safe" area over the next few weeks. If anyone has some great tips please post them.

Someone can pass all these tests and send a box of bricks but that is very, very, very unlikely as opposed to the low-level scams that are hooking trusting people... glen
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:29 PM
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Re: Suggestion from a Scamee


btw - auctions verify nothing... accounts are easily hijacked
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:33 PM
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http://www.ibanezrules.com/****.htm
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:34 PM
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you should rename that page with a hyphen if you don't want the link killed from here... LOL.... glen
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:48 PM
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eh, it's linked to every page of my site
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:58 PM
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then create another page (named different) redirecting to the e-bay page ... glen
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:56 PM
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Re: Suggestion from a Scamee


I'm very happy you are doing this;-) GO JEMSITERS
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:28 AM
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Re: Suggestion from a Scamee


Ya know, I was just talking with Rikk Beatty the other day re-living that fiasco 5 years ago with the "Kiss Worshipper" guy in CA. and how he bamboozled a whole bunch of us here into sending him guitars. It's a miracle we got them back at all......

Even though I think most of us here are savvy to these losers, there will ALWAYS be
characters out there who will try to get us and our stuff. Most are notthe sharpest tool in the shed, but there will be those who are smarter-than-the-average-bear.
-Jemaholic
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