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Old 01-16-2006, 10:11 AM
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Building a PC DAW


Hello. I'm trying to help a friend of mine build a Digital Audio Workstation. He's the 'expert' on audio mixing while I'm the computer geek. I build PC's for a hobby, but my expertise lies more in the building of machines specialized and tweaked for game playing, not for audio recording/mixing/engineering purposes.

I built a PC for him about a year ago with these relevant specs:
AMD Athlon XP 3200
1 Gig of PC3200 RAM

That's quite sufficient power wise for any purpose I could think of, but again...I have no knowledge of what is needed for specialized mixing purposes. Recently he's been mixing his own music and finds the PC sluggish and will often freeze in what he's attempting to do with 'Plug-ins'. From browsing around the web I've noticed there are "Mix" PCI cards for the specific purpose of mixing.

I'm clueless as to what makes a good DAW. Can someone point me in the right direction on what components make a good PC DAW currently?
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Old 01-16-2006, 10:46 AM
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Re: Building a PC DAW


the processor is fine, he should bump up his ram. double it up and he should be up to speed. alot of it depends on his software, too. a decent card will take off some of the load from the processor. i use an m-audio delta 1010lt. i use an athlon xp64 3000+ and dual channel 1 gb ram. with minimal slowdown and latency. i will bump up my ram in a couple of months with 2 more gigs running dual channel. making a total of 3. ram being so cheap now, its worth it to hop it up.


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Old 01-16-2006, 11:31 AM
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Re: Building a PC DAW


More than 1GB of RAM may not be a necessity. It depends on the programs he uses, the amount of FX plugins, how many tracks, etc. He should do a "heavy mix" with the system monitor running to see how much memory it's using - that'll let you know if more is needed.

In audio, the soundcard generally doesn't offload some of the CPU load like a vid card does in some video apps/games. There may be specific cards to render FX faster, but they're designed for specific software (something like Protools) - general DX or VST plugins won't know what to do with such a card. Usually, the audio card is ONLY responsible for getting sound from the analog to the digital domain. Of course, for a DAW that is of paramount importance. Quality can be had cheaply - M-Audio Audiophile, Echo Mia, etc. are $100-180 and are good stereo PCI cards that can work in 24 bit (he'll probably want this). You can get similar offerings in external firewire and USB2.0 devices as well. Besides quality, there are the number of inputs to consider. If he does anything other than overdub a track at a time, 2 tracks may not be enough; then he'll want a 4, 8, or whatever input device. BTW - audio geeks generally avoid Creative Labs.

As for sluggishness - it COULD be memory, but I'd try 2 things first:
1) You must have a dedicated hard drive that stores audio data separate from the OS & swap file drive. Preferably on a different IDE channel as well. I'd guess that THIS is the issue.
2) He needs to set up his PC to work well. Buffers, etc. should be configured according to his audio hardware and DAW software. The PC should be optimized - clean & defragged, no extra programs or services running, etc. I have a separate DAW hardware profile & login. This allows me to boot into a non-game, non-internet environment that also needs no AV, antispyware progs, or tons of useless windows processes running.

Good luck.
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:35 PM
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Re: Building a PC DAW


Thanks for the response guys!

I'm aware that true 'audiophiles' steer clear of Creative products which are garnered more toward the gamers.

He only has a single harddrive. This is the 2nd time I've read about having about using a seperate harddrive for the audio files. He only has a single Serial ATA harddrive running at the moment...that could be an issue.

What about these two add-on cards?:
http://www.uaudio.com/products/digital/studiopak/
http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCorePCImkII
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:20 PM
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The cards look like they speed up their own plugins. If he likes THOSE plugs (both companies are well respected), cool. But they won't do much for most of what's out there. IMO, get the 2nd drive and do optimizations first. If that doesn't solve the issue, get more RAM. THEN you might look into spending money. But I'd listen to the plugs first.
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