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Old 06-16-2004, 05:53 PM
Jeroenn  is offline
 
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Connecting all the stuff


Hi,
I''d like your imput on this, because I'm a n00b in this regard, and currently totally frustrated with pc recording.
Given the fact that I want to be able to record sound on sound (ie: one track at the time, no matter which input), how would you guys connect the following stuff:

I've got my guitar rig, which ends in a stereo output (2x jack)
I've got a couple of synths, which also ends in stereo ouptuts.
I've got a small mixer, with several stereo in and outputs (like recording, second return, main, Control room)
I've got a pc with line in = line out (and midi out, which will drive the synths). That thing is fit for recording, btw, fast processor and over 1 gig of memory, 50 gig free hd space.
I've got an amplifier with two monitors.
Currently, everything goes into the mixer, from the mixer to line in, from line out to amp.
Problem is when I playback a track to record another track over it, it re-records the first track too, with a delay. It sucks. And the levels always suck, playback is always louder than when I'm recording. (I use N-track btw)

I just want to record stuff...

Any tips, hints etc *greatly* apreciated!!
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Old 06-17-2004, 04:46 AM
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Re: Connecting all the stuff


I hope I can help, I'm just a hobbyist too :

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Originally Posted by Jeroenn
I've got an amplifier with two monitors.
Currently, everything goes into the mixer, from the mixer to line in, from line out to amp.
Ok. Sounds very logical to me, at least that's how I would have done it. No problems with noises/impedance or so?

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Problem is when I playback a track to record another track over it, it re-records the first track too, with a delay. It sucks. And the levels always suck, playback is always louder than when I'm recording. (I use N-track btw)
Mmm, looks like you're in trouble with the software more than with the hardware...

I use Cool Edit Pro, which I think is very clear. I always record the separate tracks and then (if there is a delay between tracks) shift them over time to have the correct timing.

Regarding the levels; you'll have to tune them; if you're using windows, you can access the 'Windows Recording Mixer Levels' (in the menu of the 'normal' volume control --> Options --> Properties --> choose recording and you'll be able to select the source and the volume of the recording). I always record like this:

Guitar --> Amp (XLR-out) --> (line-in) Soundcard

And have the line-in as recording source, I tuned the recording volume so, that, even if I do heavy palm-muted playing, it will not exceed the maximum.

If you record too soft; you'll be able to amplify it, if you're recording too loud; the computer can soften it, but cannot regenerate the signal because it exceeded the maximum value and does not know what the signal looked like beyond the max. On the other side; if you're recording too soft, you're working in just a small section of the total volume area and loose signal volume resolution (the precision of volume). Play around with the recording volume settings a bit.

I always have the line-in muted (as output for the PC), so that I can only hear my guitar amp, the recording is always softer/louder than the sound I heared out of my amp, because it simply is another output with it's own volume settings. Just tweak the volume of the recording afterwards with you're program on the computer.

Then, if all tracks are done, and the volume of the separate tracks is good I flatten the tracks to one signal and have this one normalized to a certain volume level. Done is Kees

That's my story, I can't help you on N-Track; never heard of that.

-Kris
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