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Old 01-22-2004, 06:47 PM
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Quiet Recordings


Why is it, that even tho Cubase says that the track is almost clipping... When I write a finished track to CD it always ends up being quite quiet when I then write it?

I've AB'd my recording with professional stuff, and the levels are just no-where near... why is that?

also, once I've written a track to CD, the Cd player only picks it up once... why is this?
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:17 AM
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If it is just the peaks that are clipping, try some compression.
I don't know the ins and outs, but professional stuff is mastered in such a way that the audio is compressed and maximised in a fairly sophisticated way. Software such as T-racks can apparently do a reasonable job, but the compressors in Cubase should give you a fair result.

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Old 01-24-2004, 09:17 AM
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If it is just the peaks that are clipping, try some compression.
I don't know the ins and outs, but professional stuff is mastered in such a way that the audio is compressed and maximised in a fairly sophisticated way. Software such as T-racks can apparently do a reasonable job, but the compressors in Cubase should give you a fair result.

Guy
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Old 01-24-2004, 11:21 PM
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Maybe you're checking the track mixers in cubase and not the MASTER mixer.. this is the one that has to be near 0 dB (-.02 tops).. also, how are you bouncing the tracks? Fully digital or routing through mixer? there's a world of difference..
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Old 01-25-2004, 12:38 AM
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I use a peak limiter a lot. I don't mean a lot as in doing a lot of limiting, but I use it often. On analog tape the "spike" peaks were fine. The tape distorted and compressed those little peaks almost the same way the human ear does it, so it sounded very natural, and more alive. Stupid digital can't handle it , so it crackles or squawks. We can set the levels lower and still have better signal to noise ratio, but you still need to hit the tracks hard to get a strong master. So the hard limiter will take those 4-5 times per track that are generating the clip warnings (or real clips) and hack them down without the unwanted effect of compression. Unless you want the track compressed, then by all means....But then you can raise the level of the track by 2-4db sometimes.

But it also sounds like you're not mastering the final mix with T-racks or whatever, because you'd be in control at that point of your overall master level. I've mixed some songs weak because the individual tracks had wide dynamic range, and I wanted that to come out even though I might've compressed the final mix 3:1 or so, and boosted it then. The variance between instruments was preserved. Other "wall of sound" songs will be mixed hot and have more "per track" compression to lock everything in its place in the mix the whole song through.
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