record stereo with one amp?

[Mister CCJ]

hey guys, im very interested in the g-system and want to get it in a few months after i sell some other stuff. now this is probably a stupid question, but how exactly would be the way to record with in stereo it using a guitar amp? the only way i see it happening is to go guitar-box-left amp/right amp and mic both. is there a way to do it with one amp?

[Rip]

1 amp=mono

[Demiurge]

Depending on the effects you want to use the G-System for, your best bet would be to record dry and run the signal through the G-System via auxilary bus (if your multitrack allows it).

[Ibanut]

If I have to go mono I will just track it then make a duplicate track and pan hard right hard left ..easy stereo

[Rip]

I could be wrong but i think he wants
to use the mono in of that unit..and the stereo effects.

Making 2 seperate mono tracks wouldnt be the same thing

[Randy G]

Use two very tonally different mics and pan them hard left/right.

[Rip]

Originally Posted by Randy G

Use two very tonally different mics and pan them hard left/right.

thats not stereo, nor is it what the guy asked, just sayin.

[David McCarroll]

Yuh, 1 amp = mono.

I suggest (which I think is basically what someone else has already said) that you record the guitar dry through the amp in mono, then use a mono send/stereo return out of your recording I/O box, and put the G-System in the loop to add the effects you want post recording - the nice thing about this to boot is that you won't lose your original "dry" recording, so you can redo the effects if you are not happy with them.

[Randy G]

Originally Posted by Rip

thats not stereo, nor is it what the guy asked, just sayin.

Actually it is. Your source doesn't have to be "stereo" to get a stereo recording. If you want to get really technical, your typical method of using one mic per source and mixing to two tracks is called panned mono.

If you use my technique of pointing two mics at an amp, and then panning them, that indeed IS true stereo. To get even truer stereo, the way your ears hear things, you could mic binaurally, though this sounds best through headphones.

[Rip]

Originally Posted by Randy G

Actually it is. Your source doesn't have to be "stereo" to get a stereo recording. If you want to get really technical, your typical method of using one mic per source and mixing to two tracks is called panned mono.

If you use my technique of pointing two mics at an amp, and then panning them, that indeed IS true stereo. To get even truer stereo, the way your ears hear things, you could mic binaurally, though this sounds best through headphones.

you stated
"Use two very tonally different mics and pan them hard left/right."

first off if you were going for what you stated..you would use similar mics.

Does your left ear have totally different tonally to it than your right ear?

2nd if you place those microphones close to a guitar amp..
sorry but you arent going to be getting different information though those mics.
You have the same exact information in both microphones the only difference is the tone.

Even if you went with a spaced pair 20ft back the difference is going to be small.
(you could create a real life stereo sound as in..if the mics were off center making the sound source appear to
be more in one ear and less in the other, but i think its obvious that not what this guy is after)


Id guess this guy has 1 amp..and wants the stereo fx's off his unit
he is hoping some way to get both sides into his amp.

Yes he could do it, but depending on what he ran though it could end up with phasing issues.

[Mister CCJ]

im talking the acoustics of the microphones aside, how would i pick up the actual effects from the box in stereo using one amp (with one mic). ok... my first thought was to go guitar-amp-box-recording device somehow but i realize that different effects need to be placed before or after therefor this wouldnt work. i guess im trying to get the guitar to go through the amp and get the effects as they would sound as if u plugged headphones into the g-system.

[Mister CCJ]

ok... for example steve vai... being that hes used the g-force and now g-system, what is his approach to recording a guitar track? i cant see it being miking two amps since the delays and such are so spacious.

[Demiurge]

You can't get a stereo effect through a mono amp because unless your amp is stereo running into a stereo cab, there's no separate right and left channel output. In the studio, you can get the stereo effects in a few ways: adding the effect via bussing to a recorded track OR send the right and left channel output from your stereo processor each to their own amplifier and mic appropriately OR you can overdub and pan both tracks to create stereo space.

[Rip]

just in case i wasnt clear what i stated in my last post that he "could" do it..

I meant..he could sum his stereo signal into mono..but im sure the results would be horrible.

[Mister CCJ]

im assuming that going with two amplifiers would probably be the best way (and easiest) to do it to get the most out of the amps and the g-system. now, would there be as much spatial difference between miking two amps seperately say 10 feet away from each other as there would be just plugging headphones into the g-system (say a ping pong delay or whatever with extreme left and right parameters)? if u cannot tell im trying to avoid having to add delay/reverb to the tracks after theyre recorded

i watched the video on the tc electronic website demoing the g-system and this seems to be how it was done on there and it didnt seem to sound too bad like that.