set drum on my song without $$$$

[yannvii]

Hello I would like to know if I can put or create my own drum's beat
without to have to pay big program or a machine drum or maybe buy
something that not cost many money.......

[frankfalbo]

What kind of software are you using now? What kind of drum sounds do you need? Is it heavy music, hard rock, techno, jazz, etc? There are probably some free loops or samples you can string together. Where are you located? Maybe there're some schools nearby where a music student would play drums for you inexpensively.

[yannvii]

a friend of mine burned me his cd of fruity loop and downloaded me natural studio kit but is it good to do kinda rock orsmoth compos on my computer?

P.s its seems really difficult to set drum with fruity loop is it true?
I didn't find how to put the wav files on fruity loop 4

[Ibateur]

I have fruity loops setup with a few of the nskit wav files. I am able to make several beats and rolls and stuff to make up a simple demo style thing.

What are you having difficulty with in FL4? All you have to do is right click and "load sample"...

[Drew]

I've been sequencing in the freeware version of Fruity Loops for years. It's no match for a real drummer, for flexibility, but good samples and a good reverb during mixdown, and it's quite convincing.

-D

[Kev Brigden]

I have a tip you may like to try:

I use FL5 and its great by the way! Anyway, where was I..

In FL5 aquire a copy if you can because in FL5 there is the FPC drum synth. One evening, me and my drummer sat down in front of the PC and looked at all of the NSkit samples and thought "thats cool, but its a ball ache to use them" so...

We eventually figured out, that in the FPC, there are 16 banks (so effectivly upto a 16 piece kit, but we used the additional space for extra snare hits and hi-hat hits) within each of these 16 pads, it is possible to load as many different samples as you please into a single pad and "spread the velocity" across all of the samples. Now, if youve noticed, NSkit has loads and loads of clips of the same piece of kit at different velocities, which run consecutively. So, we loaded each snare hit into a "Left Hand Snare","Right Hand Snare" and a single "Rimshot" snare. We did this for every single part of the kit... well, we used all 16 pads anyway!

NOTE: This requires a LOT of RAM!!

THEN, we used the "Piano Roll" to program the beats (don't use the step editor, its a complete and utter waste of time) making sure that every single snare hit, even if intended to be of relatively similar velocity, was ever-so-slightly different. To make it sound "real".

This provided a wicked drum sound..

WAIT! theres more!

THEN!

We exported it! In the FPC, you also set the destination channels in Fruityloop's own mixer. We took care to ensure that all of the snare hits went to one track, all of the high hats to another etc. We should have also put all of the individual toms into their own channel... but, well... we forgot!

As I was saying, we exported the kit as wav files using the "split mixer tracks" functionality in FL. NOTE: Don't bother mixing/EQing/Compressing/Panning here wait a minute!

Now, fruity loops was very nice and exported each part of the kit seperately, and we also noticed, that if you make sure you are exporting the "SONG" and not the "PATTERN" it also provides a the stereo mix (which is just the drums obviously)

Now, we then imported each drum part onto its own track in Cubase (my mixer software) AS WELL as the stereo mix of the full kit.

This is where the fun came in, you see... I didnt intend to put the stereo mix into Cubase, I wasn't paying attention, and in a rush I loaded that as well. Now, in Cubase, I have all of the mono drum clips (apart from the stereo mix, duh!) routed to a Stereo Group track. Why?

Well, to apply a reverb to all of them. On previous attempts at this malarky I thought it was the accepted way of applying reverb to every single track in the group... without having to use loads and loads of RAM. Each part of the kit was panned realisticly as well.

Now, I noticed that I had left the full mix in Cubase and tested a little theory...

I removed all of the reverb from the group... and left the mono drums parts dry. I THEN, (can you see where I'm going here?) added some reverb to the stereo mix of the full kit. I was carefull to not go overboard, so I created a very timid reverb effect and applied about 28% of it to the signal.

Well!

My word... most of the pros on here probably knew about this... but by god... it sounds amazing! With the fully dry parts of the kit backing up what now sounds like an Overhead mic and now enjoys the title "OVERHEAD" in cubase, the drum sounds Im getting are amazing! Especially the snares, which bite and snarl like a real snare!

Hmm, this must be my longest ever post... ah well...

hope it helps.

kev