Breeds, Evos, Blaze

MelodyMan · #1 05-06-2007, 03:46 AM

Could someone give me a quick run-down of the differences in sound between these three types of pups...I've played a 7vwh with Evos before, so I'm pretty familiar with the sound they pump out, but I'm not as familiar with the Breeds or Blazes...

Thanks!
Chris

Passion_and_Warfare · #2 05-06-2007, 06:58 AM

I think that breeds lack a bit of presence compared to evo's

toshiro · #3 05-06-2007, 08:43 AM

Evo's are bright and hot.

Breeds are fat, like an "updated" PAF type tone. Not really a distortion-class pickup, but they have good harmonics anyway.

Blazes are 7 string humbuckers, designed when Vai was using the PAF-Pro in his guitars. I find the neck model to be similar to the PAF-Pro, while the bridge pickup inspired the Steve's Special.

AirGuitar · #4 05-06-2007, 08:02 PM

The Evos are very bright, lots of treble and high mids.

The Breed bridge is still quite crunchy, but has pleanty of midrange, and isnt as piercing as the evo.

The Blaze is a scooped pickup where the treble is quite pronounced, and the mids are cut back. Its great for keeping the low B from getting muddy, but i didnt like it for leads or soloing.

buddroyce · #5 05-06-2007, 08:25 PM

The Evo's are great when you need to cut through in a live situation as there's a whole lot of presence in them. I find the Evo's to be great for lead but not as meaty as I would like for a hard rock/metal rhythm tone.

The Breed's are beafier sounding with more 'umph' and chug than the Evo. Good lead and rhythm pickup.

The Blaze neck is a great pickup for both bridge and neck positions. The bridge I wasn't too fond of. It's nice and clean sounding as the mids are cut back and works great to keep the low B from getting into the mud, but I'm with AirGuitar as I don't like it too much for leads. (I'm not a fan of the Steve's Special either as I like mids in my tone).

Are you looking for a 6 string or 7 string pickup?

JJEMMER777 · #6 05-06-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by toshiro

Breeds are fat, like an "updated" PAF type tone. Not really a distortion-class pickup, .

Please!

I've played Evos for years. When I got my Bad Horise with the breeds I was welcomed to a whole new world. I prefer the Breeds over the Evos BIG TIME!

Tone and sustain are unreal.

Maybe it's just the rig you're playing through, but my Brmr's tone rules all over the Vwh and Vsbl that I have. Again, maybe its just the rig, but I have to kindly disagree with ya good sir

~PHAT, Crunchy, space age~ More versatlie and good for ANY type of music including Metal! (especially)

To me at least, Breeds are the best of the EVO's and the PAF's all thrown into the same pot. (or pup in this case

)

Hmmm.....there must be a reason why Breed's come on the latest production (05 to current) Jems rater than Evos

(other than the vwh)

~BREEDS RULE~ Try um and see for yourself, MM

I can't comment on the Blaze as I do not play 7's.

dragsternj · #7 05-06-2007, 08:48 PM

Not sure how one can say they are BETTER than the others. I am using both and they sure are different. I personally like my 550's with Breeds neck and bridge better than the evo's in my Jems. They are not as shrill, more fat, more suitable for a whole range of different styles, but not better. Different. I'd always go with breeds.

JJEMMER777 · #8 05-06-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dragsternj

I'd always go with breeds.

Okay...they aren't better, but you prefer them.......

Nice "tact" drag

toshiro · #9 05-07-2007, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

Please!

I've played Evos for years. When I got my Bad Horise with the breeds I was welcomed to a whole new world. I prefer the Breeds over the Evos BIG TIME!

Tone and sustain are unreal.

Maybe it's just the rig you're playing through, but my Brmr's tone rules all over the Vwh and Vsbl that I have. Again, maybe its just the rig, but I have to kindly disagree with ya good sir

~PHAT, Crunchy, space age~ More versatlie and good for ANY type of music including Metal! (especially)

To me at least, Breeds are the best of the EVO's and the PAF's all thrown into the same pot. (or pup in this case

)

Hmmm.....there must be a reason why Breed's come on the latest production (05 to current) Jems rater than Evos

(other than the vwh)

~BREEDS RULE~ Try um and see for yourself, MM

I can't comment on the Blaze as I do not play 7's.

Dude, WTH are you on about? That's what they sound like.

I've owned over half of Dimarzio's entire line of pickups at one time of another, including the the Breeds and Evos. In fact I currently have a Breed set in one, and a Breed Neck in another of my current guitars. The dual resonance thing makes them "seem" like a distortion class(by this I mean hot and compressed like an Evo, super distortion, etc) in harmonics, but are warmer and more vintage toned.

Compared to something like a Super 3, the Breed bridge is not a high-output pickup, IMO. That does not make is a bad pickup by any means.

Did I say anywhere in that post that I prefer one over the other? In fact I don't like the Blaze Bridge, or Evo Bridge much at all, but that's personal preference and the guy wanted a comparison based on hearing only the Evolutions. Talk about a worthless argument.

JJEMMER777 · #10 05-07-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by toshiro

Talk about a worthless argument.

Whoa....

No argument at all, tosh

You stated:

"Breeds are not a distortion class pickup. (meaning not good for Metal, heavy riffs, right??)

I stated that I have to "KINDLY" disagree.

He wanted an assessment / opinion of the pups. You gave yours and I gave mine. He was seeking opinions and he got them. Simple as that

Sorry if I rubbed ya the wrong way. Not my intention at all

toshiro · #11 05-07-2007, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

"Breeds are not a distortion class pickup. (meaning not good for Metal, heavy riffs, right??)

No, meant distortion class, as being a high-output pickup. The Super Distortion and Evolution Bridge are "distortion class" humbuckers. They are never completely clean, unless you roll off the volume on the guitar. The first thing I really notice between The Breed and an Evolution is that decrease in compression, then the EQ differences.

You can use a PAF for metal.

Trey from Morbid Angel has used PAF-Pros as bridge pickups. Output has nothing to do with how metal a pickup is.

JJEMMER777 · #12 05-07-2007, 07:38 AM

You are obviously much more educated than myself sir

Sorry for my misunderstanding and thanks for the lesson

Jemsite is to guitars as Hogwarts is to wizardry

--AleX-- · #13 05-07-2007, 08:59 AM

Very interesting discussion... I'm thinking about customize my dear 1998 S270, which I find very comfortable and well built for a cheap korean axe; I'm looking for DiMarzios, and since the S has a slim mahogany body, what pup for bridge and neck you suggest for playing hard rock to classic heavy?

dragsternj · #14 05-07-2007, 10:35 AM

Super Distortion (Br) and Air Norton (Nk) for the S

MelodyMan · #15 05-07-2007, 02:33 PM

Thanks for the info, guys! I've gotta try out something with breeds at some point. And I've always kind of wanted to try out a seven string, just to see how it feels and what I could do with it...how weird is it going to a seven string after playing on a six for so long?