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Old 05-06-2009, 01:26 PM
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Got a Humbucker


Hi, as I said a bought a Humbucker (I think it is an Ibanez True Duo Bucker, but I'm not 100% sure). I have a cheap strat copy (classic SSS pups and a 5-way switch). I got some pictures for you to see and tell me is it possible to wire the hum and get this pup configuration (http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...are/Scheme.jpg)

If you have any questions, ask and I will answer.

Here are some pictures of the pick up and my guitar:
pup:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...Stersts001.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...Stersts002.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...Stersts003.jpg
Guitar:
Switch:http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...itargaj001.jpg
Volume:http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...itargaj002.jpg
Tones:http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...itargaj003.jpg
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:28 AM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


Come on people. I really need help with this.
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:19 AM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


I don't think you're getting that exact pickup config from a standard 5-way switch. Best bet would be a mini-toggle or push-pull pot to split the humbucker, which would give you your positions 2 and 3 depending on if the coil-tap was engaged or not.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:21 PM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


Ok, thanks djohns74. What splitting configuration would I get with this wiring?
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...2s_1v_2t_5w_as
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:47 PM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


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Ok, thanks djohns74. What splitting configuration would I get with this wiring?
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...2s_1v_2t_5w_as
That looks like a pretty typical config for a humbucker with a single coil in the middle. You should get:

1. Full humbucker
2. One coil of bridge + middle
3. Middle
4. Middle + Neck
5. Neck
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:30 AM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


^Thanks man, I think i will wire it that way.
Only 1 problem: SD Diagram shows hum has 5 wires (Black, red,green, white(one that goes to the switch) and bare one(goes to the pot(ground))).
My hum has: Black, Red, Blue, White and Bare.
Is my blue same as SD green?
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:01 AM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


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^Thanks man, I think i will wire it that way.
Only 1 problem: SD Diagram shows hum has 5 wires (Black, red,green, white(one that goes to the switch) and bare one(goes to the pot(ground))).
My hum has: Black, Red, Blue, White and Bare.
Is my blue same as SD green?
Hard to say, but I wouldn't count on it. There's absolutely no standard for wire colors out there, so all four of yours could conceivably be completely different from Duncan's. I'm not familiar with the True Duo's and am not finding much info on wiring one I'm afraid.

EDIT: Actually, I found one Ibanez wiring diagram that shows the TrueDuo, and it does include the proper colors, but there's a new wrinkle here.


There there's this link: http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/produc...o/index_e.html This says that one of the True Duo's coils is actually a stacked single coil, which is how they get the "true" single coil sound from it. So, rather than your four wires going to each end of two coils as in a normal 4 conductor humbucker, it looks like they're instead used to engage the two different modes of the pickup, which makes what you want to do a little more complex.

With this setup, I'm not sure how you'd be able to coil-top this humbucker without a switch of some kind, if you could at all. It depends on what they're doing with the red wire, I guess.

EDIT 2: Okay, I've been trying to work out how this thing would work internally, and I think I've got it. Unfortunately, I don't see any way to automatically switch to single coil mode in the 2nd switch position the way you could with a typical 4-conductor pickup. You'd pretty much have to use a two-way switch of some kind as Ibanez does, but the benefit of doing so is that you would, in theory, get a better single coil sound from the bridge than a standard humbucker would, if that means anything to you.

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Old 05-08-2009, 07:21 PM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


Thank you for this man, I'll buy push-pull pot and wire it this way.
Problem remaining, though...
I see 2 wires coming from Single coils (mine have only one). Should I just connect one more?
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:33 PM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


Your single coils have to have two wires. Surely you mean you have one wire plus a bare for the ground, right? The bare one goes to the back of a pot and the other one, whatever color it is, goes to the switch. In fact, I would not remove the wires from their current positions on the switch, just to make life easier. One benefit of using a push-pull for the TrueDuo is that it keeps your 5-way switch nice and simple, just replace the wire from the existing bridge pickup with the blue one from the TrueDuo then wire up the push pull as shown and you should be good to go.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:56 AM
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Re: Got a Humbucker


Sorry for the delay. Yes, you are right, SCs have 2 wires. Only one more question, and thats it: Scheme writes that tone pot must be 500Kohm. But can I use my (250Kohm) old tone pot?
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:32 AM
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A 250K tone pot will work fine, but you should get a 500K push-pull for the volume pot or your humbucker could end up sounding kinda muddy.
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Re: Got a Humbucker


Ok, thanks. I'm ordering a push-pull tomorow. When I complete the guitar I will come back.
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