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Old 05-13-2006, 05:25 PM
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H-H pickup wiring


anyone got any suggestions for a H-H setup?

I plan to use dimarzio breeds and im wiring from scratch, Ive got half an idea but could really use some help on how to switch and combine the pups..
any help with schematics and drawings would also be appreciated !!!
you may also get a mention in the credit list when I show off my custom !!!



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Old 05-13-2006, 05:47 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


are you using a 3 way switch or 5 way switch and how may pots and what do you want them to be ?

i can help you out with anything you need , there are quite a few good diagrams too just give a little more info
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Old 05-13-2006, 06:17 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


I wanted to keep it simple, 1 coil tap switch (on the tone knob), volume, tone, 2 breed pups and i dont know about the switch, I havent bought one yet.

I was thinking of a 3 way switch and:

no coil tap engaged
pos 1 - bridge
pos 2 - both
pos 3 - neck

it would be the same with the coil tap engaged only using one coil of each pup in positions 1 & 3 but using 1 coil of each pup in position 2.
zzzzz. very tired now...


zzzz... very tired now... been re-modelling bathroom :tired:

In fact what I have just said is that I want switching exactly like a JS1200 (just looked on ibanez website...duh!)

would you happen to have a schematic for that ?
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Old 05-13-2006, 06:24 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


http://www.ibanez.com/wiring/diagrams/2005/JS1000.pdf


the high pass filter on the volume would be cool with breeds . If you dont want it simple disreguard the push/pull pot on the volume pot . If need any thing else let me know .
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Old 05-13-2006, 08:50 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


5 way multipole, plus one mini toggle so:

1 - bridge series
2 - bridge parallell
3 - both
4 - neck parallel
5 - neck series

and use the toggle (or push/pull pot) to split both pups...

Has all you listed, plus the parallel sounds... which i welcome as a very nice adition for cleans...

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Old 05-13-2006, 11:48 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


Check out the Megaswitch P-Model available from StewMac:

Positions:
1 Bridge pickup
2 Inner pickup coils, parallel
3 Outer coils, series
4 Outer coils, parallel
5 Neck pickup



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Old 05-13-2006, 11:54 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


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Originally Posted by TonyT1000
Check out the Megaswitch P-Model available from StewMac:

Positions:
1 Bridge pickup
2 Inner pickup coils, parallel
3 Outer coils, series
4 Outer coils, parallel
5 Neck pickup



that is the same switch i have in my rg570 that is for sale . they are extermly versital switches , i really like them a lot , though i think they my suck a little tone out of your sound .
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


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that is the same switch i have in my rg570 that is for sale . they are extermly versital switches , i really like them a lot , though i think they my suck a little tone out of your sound .
It depends on how it is wired and how the pickups are set up. There is a chance that you will get an out-of-phase condition if the coils selected are not reverse-wound and reverse magnetic polarity.

I have used the Schaller Megaswitch on a few H/H guitars with good results. I am planning to put one in my next project guitar as well as a phase switch on the bridge humbucker. Should make for some interesting combinations.
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


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Originally Posted by j.arledge
http://www.ibanez.com/wiring/diagrams/2005/JS1000.pdf


the high pass filter on the volume would be cool with breeds . If you dont want it simple disreguard the push/pull pot on the volume pot . If need any thing else let me know .

Thanks everyone for your input but I think Ill go with the JS1000 wiring.

I assume that the 330pF cap is the high pass filter ?
if so, whats the relationship between the cap value and the filtering ?
e.g - higher cap value = more treble ???? etc.
and where do I get these pots ?

Thanks !

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Old 05-14-2006, 01:22 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


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Thanks everyone for your input but I think Ill go with the JS1000 wiring.

I assume that the 330pF cap is the high pass filter ?
if so, whats the relationship between the cap value and the filtering ?
e.g - higher cap value = more treble ???? etc.
and where do I get these pots ?

Thanks !

Jaden.

as your turn the volume down on a standard 500k pot the higher freqencies in the signal usually get bled off along with the signals overall intensity . the high pass cap makes it so that more of the highs stay in the sound when the volume is turned down .


the smaller cap will maintain your highs but allow a change in signal of the pot . if the cap is too big you'll go to roll back the volume and too much signal will get trough and it will be like your volume only works between 0 and 1 or maybe 2 .
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


aaaaarrrrgh, too many choices
I thought I knew what I wanted but the suggestion that marianozz made with the multipole switch AND coil tapping is very tempting !
what are the pro's and con's of both those wiring / pickup combinations ?
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


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5 way multipole, plus one mini toggle so:

1 - bridge series
2 - bridge parallell
3 - both
4 - neck parallel
5 - neck series

and use the toggle (or push/pull pot) to split both pups...

Has all you listed, plus the parallel sounds... which i welcome as a very nice adition for cleans...

we have a winner, thanks maianozz and thanks to everyone else for their suggestions !!!

this is easy and versatile so im gonna go for it, just wish that multipole switch wasnt so bloody expensive, still it'll be a drop in the ocean one im finished
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Old 05-19-2006, 11:41 AM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


well I cant resist chiming in and asking a question thats been bothering me...
I like the HH config and currently have a few guitars set up that way using this diagram from a 1999 RG 520
http://www.ibanez.com/wiring/wire.asp?y=1999&w=RG520

1. neck series
2. neck single coil
3. both parallel
4. front and back single parallel humbucking
5. bridge series

Finally !!! a switching setup that i use all 5 positions the 2 and 4 positions are great...2 is asmooth jazz/strat neck sound and 4 is that middle position strat sound, 3 is good for rhythm and of course 1 and 5 are good too!!! (norton/TZ)... my question is the switch used is (on the side) marked 2502N, is this the same as the Mega P switch and could i use the same diagram for it?

mpx
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:45 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


I decided to go with a Megaswitch E-Model instead of a P-Model for my latest axe since it offers coil-split options and three hum cancelling positions. I will combine that with either a phase or a bridge on toggle.




2 humbuckers
Point # Wire assignment
1 empty
2 neck pickup hot wire
3 output to volume pot
4 ground to volume pot
5 neck pickup coil tap
6 bridge pickup coil tap
7 bridge pickup hot wire


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Old 05-20-2006, 03:08 PM
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Re: H-H pickup wiring


the cool thing is once you have the megaswitch or multipole which I bought, as long as youre willing to re-wire every now and then the posibilities are endless...
sweet
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