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Originally Posted by mi2tom
That's the same thing he told me when I asked him bout a thicker paf pro. He says breed neck.
Have you ever tried Breed NECK in the bridge position? I tried it on someones guitar and I have a paf pro in the bridge in my guitar, tonally they do sound the same, but the breed neck in the bridge is just beefier than the paf pro but still remains the characteristic of the paf pro and just slighly louder.
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I do not doubt or question that Steve says that it sounds like a thicker PAF Pro.
But I think he means that it is the pickup that sound closest to the characteristics of the PAF Pro if you are looking for a hotter and thicker pickup in that style.
I mean that it is not a hotter PAF Pro, but the pickup that is closest to being a hotter PP.
In my personal opinion is a pickup that is hotter, has a completely different EQ, a different pickup. In my opinion can’t you really change that much a keep the characteristics (depending on how wide view you have for saying “the same characteristics” I guess).
Yes, I have breed neck (DP165) in the bridge in probably 3-4 guitars right now.
And I have A/B tested DP165 and PAF Pro in the same guitar, changing noting but the pickup in the entire sound chain.
I don’t think you can judge a pickup (or a guitar, or anything) from trying one in a friend’s guitar (probably in his rig) and then you’re pickup in another guitar (and maybe a different rig).
A pickup is a consistent sound source; all PAF Pro’s do sound the same, but everything ells in the chain does not. The PAF Pro in 4 different guitars and you will, more or less, have 4 different sounds.
Sorry writing so much, but pickups really are a hobby of mine, and I like taking about it.
I have loads of pickups home and very often do players from Sweden come here to try out what pickups that would be good for them. And I do a funny little test with some people that have “this or that wood always sound like… and this or that pickup does not sound good in this or that wood” ideas. I put them on a stole, turn the amp on and give them a guitar and tell them to tell me what they think and if they want hotter/weaker, more/less bas treble and so on.
They might say “to hot, want something weaker”, and I give them another guitar with another pickup. Then they might go, this pickup has too much bas or something, and we go through about 10 guitars with different pickups.
And they would have pickup that was everything between perfect and not good at all.
Then I tell them that all pickups were the same, they have tried 10 guitars with Breed (DP166) in them. And all pickups were wired the same and many of the guitars are axactly the same.
Some of them don’t believe me until I show them that all of them have the same pickup.
What I’m saying, in my long and complicated way
, is that I think you really need to try both pickups in your own guitar (another guitar of the same model is not close enough) and in your own rig to have a reliable idea of what the difference between two pickups really are.
/Magnus
