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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-22-2010, 03:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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Ibanez wireing diagrams

Hello, I tried to create a thread with more specifics to what I am doing but I cant post links till 10 posts... so for now...

Is there any place with good wireing diagrams for the Ibanez coil split wireing for HSH configurations where posistions 2 and 4 split coils from neck and bridge with middle? Also the HH config were 2 is neck parallel and 4 is coil split with neck/bridge?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-22-2010, 03:10 PM
 
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

The best website for that is probably http://www.ibanez.com/support/wiringdiagrams. Look for an RG1570 or similar for the HSH wiring and maybe an RG1527 for the other. FYI, the HH wiring scheme you mentioned isn't so much special wiring as it is a special switch. You can't get that combination with a "normal" 5-way switch.
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

You need a multi pole 5 way switch for either of the config's that I mentioned not? Or is there another switch all together?
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

I'm sure you could do it with a multi-pole switch, though I have no clue what the diagram would look like. Ibanez uses a special switch designed for HH guitars, part number 3PS1SC5, also sometimes referred to as a 2502N, which is what's printed on the side of the switch.
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

So the HSH split coil wireing is a standard 5 way?
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

Yep. A typical 5-way switch is simply a 2-pole unit and only one pole is required to actually switch between the pickups. The second pole is used to perform the coil-tapping in positions 2 and 4. Even a Fender 5-way is a 2-pole switch just like a standard Ibanez, but a typical Strat config uses the second pole to hook up the dual tone controls.
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

Are there any diagrams that show in detail standard 5 way dual pole and the multipole 5 way as used in parallel switching?

I am trying to wrap my head around how these circuits work...
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

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Are there any diagrams that show in detail standard 5 way dual pole and the multipole 5 way as used in parallel switching?

I am trying to wrap my head around how these circuits work...

I'm losing noticeable volume when in positions 2 and 4 but guess that's because it's splitting the coils due to the fact that I only have 2 humbucker pickups.
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I'm losing noticeable volume when in positions 2 and 4 but guess that's because it's splitting the coils due to the fact that I only have 2 humbucker pickups.
Yeah that makes sense. Not sure what it had to do with my post though...

Is there any diagrams or drawings that detail out 5 way switches and what points are connected in each position? I am not understanding these wireing diagrams on the Ibanez website because I do not know how the standard or multi-pole 5 way switches work...

EDIT: Looking at the Ibanez drawings shows the same 5 way for both HSH split coil and the HH parallel split coil wireings and it looks different then standard 5 way's and different then DiMarzio's Multi-pole...

My head is hurting...

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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-24-2010, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Ibanez wireing diagrams

Ok I have figured it out to some extent...

I did the screwdriver tap test last night and found that my RG270 is already in the HSH split coil configuration. So i used a ohm meter and found that the switch work likes follows.

1-2-3-4 | 5-6-7-8

Position:
1. 1 & 4 | 5 & 6
2. 1 & 2 & 4 | 6 & 7
3. 2 & 4 | 5 & 8
4. 2 & 3 & 4 | 7 & 8
5. 3 & 4 | 5 & 8

And the wiring goes as:
1. Bridge Hot
2. Middle hot (or reversed depending on the polarity in respect to the humbucker coil being split).
3. Neck Hot
4. Common to volume pot
5. nothing
6. Bridge split
7. to ground
8. Neck split

So in positions 1-3-5 it gives straight pickups. Positions 2 and 4 the second pole ( 5 - 8 ) kills coils by putting ground straight to the first coil thats hooked up on the first pole.

Now what I plan to do is make two push pull switches. The first one will take the coil splits on 6 & 8 to the common two lugs on the switch and ground on the top two (so when I pull up on the push pull it puts the splits to ground). The second one will take the wire going from 4 on the 5 way to one of the bottom lugs on the switch and the common lug to the volume pot. Then I'll take the bridge/neck hots from 1/3 to the top lugs (so when I pull up on the switch it bypasses the 5 way and puts on both humbuckers).

With this configuration when I pull up on the first coil I will essentially have a strat config (3 single coils). If I then pull up on the second one I will have just the humbuckers but then also split. push down the first one and I will have two full humbuckers. 5 way will do nothing when the second switch is up.

I am pretty sure this will work and i am pretty excited to try it out.

Also Ibanez switches are different then all other switches (This one has a similar wireing to some 5 way strats but I cant confirm without having one to test) so until I find some diagrams or some extra cash to buy some extra switches I will stick with ordering switches from Ibanez through my local store.

My headache is starting to go away...
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