Innaccuracy of Dimarzio and Ibanez wiring diagrams (help!)

malhavok · #1 12-23-2002, 08:48 PM

Getting ready to rewire one of my UV's for a different sound and more versatility. Dimarzio sent me a wiring diagram. The wire colors on the diagram seem to be opposite of what's in the stock UV wiring. I checked the Ibanez support diagrams and they show the same thing. Additionally, the colors of the middle PU wires are black and white, not green and red as the diagrams show. Seems like the just got it backwards. So which color equals which color? Black to green, white to red or the other way around?

Also, they five way switch in the Dimarzio and Ibanez diagrams doesn't look anything like the five way switch in my guitar. Any explanation?

Rich · #2 12-23-2002, 09:35 PM

You can wire a guitar a few differen t ways and it's the exact same wiring, in other words, it does the exact same thing. Always confuses me untill I work through the diagram.

evil01ws6 · #3 12-24-2002, 04:44 AM

Dude,

I have done a bunch of this stuff. What are you trying to accomplish?? And just for the record, the DiMarzio switch is much more user-friendly than the Ibanez one, because you can see whats going on.

malhavok · #4 12-24-2002, 07:26 AM

What I want to do is replace the humbuckers and add a push/pull tone control. I want the push/pull to switch both humbuckers to full time single coil operation. When in 'normal' mode, I want the five way to function exactly like it does on the stock Universe. Dimarzio did send me a diagram for this, but the 5 way switch in the diagram is very different. Oddly, the Dimarzio diagram matches the 5 way switch in the diagram from the Ibanez site for this exact guitar. But it's not the switch in the guitar. Does that sound clear?

evil01ws6 · #5 12-24-2002, 03:36 PM

Are they showing you a switch that has four or five terminals on one side, and four or five on the other side??? That is a DiMarzio switch, use it, it is your friend.

malhavok · #6 12-24-2002, 04:07 PM

It's a switch with five on one side and five on the other. It's labeled VLX91. The switch in my guitar has all the contacts across the bottom in two groups of four. It is labeled VLX53.

Rich · #7 12-24-2002, 05:40 PM

The VLX91 is actually a 24 pole switch. I've never seen a VLX53.

evil01ws6 · #8 12-24-2002, 09:48 PM

Call Steve Blucher after the holidays, you are probably going to need to use their EP1112 (I think that is the model number) mutipole switch for a strat, to make the whole thing work.

malhavok · #9 12-25-2002, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

The VLX91 is actually a 24 pole switch. I've never seen a VLX53.

The VLX53 is what is in the '97 UV7BK, which I assumed, and have been told, is all stock. It has come to me through traceable and reliable sources from the original owner. The switch has a sticker on it that reads:

VLX53
6109

RG7420 · #10 12-25-2002, 03:25 PM

i don't think with the new 24 pole switch that you can tap coils. since the neck is wired for series/ parallel, you really can't put a coil tap on it. ibanez just released some new schematics. i just rewired my rg320dxqm with an air norton neck and screamin demon trembucker. sounds really nice thru my POD. also put a ceramic magnet into my tone zone. it clips the pod doing LEAD runs. other than the color codes, it was really simple to wire it all up. to get single coil tones out of it you will most likely have to get a standard 5 way or go to guitar electonics and get their 5way 4 pole. pos 2 splits inner coils and pos 4 splits outer coils. its a HUGE switch.

Rich · #11 12-25-2002, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malhavok

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

The VLX91 is actually a 24 pole switch. I've never seen a VLX53.

The VLX53 is what is in the '97 UV7BK, which I assumed, and have been told, is all stock. It has come to me through traceable and reliable sources from the original owner. The switch has a sticker on it that reads:

VLX53
6109

Which explains why I haven't seen one, I don't get into front routs unless I actually HAVE to do something to them

bammbamm · #12 12-27-2002, 02:00 PM

EPS1110 is the multi-pole.
You can wire up pretty much ANY config you can imagine; tapping, phasing, series, parallel, you name it, they are VERY versitile !

Bamm

JLM777 · #13 03-21-2003, 12:48 AM

Anyone have a diagram for the VLX53? I am going to replace my rear PAF Pro with a Tone Zone, and I need the diagram with the right switch.

Thanks!

Akhenaten · #14 03-21-2003, 01:01 AM

guitarelectronics.com has a bunch of the diagrams. Maybe they will help you. For the most part, they are in Duncan color codes, but there are also universal diagrams for everyone else. They usually work for me, although I generally use the Switchcraft switches with five and five contacts. Maybe it'll help? :-)

JLM777 · #15 03-21-2003, 01:09 AM

Well I'm just confused as hell really now because in this 89 JEM 777 it looks like:

RED and GREEN are together and go to the series lug
BLACK is going to the HOT lug.
WHITE and BARE are going to GROUND.

Did Dimarzio change the color of their wiring at some point in the past? If so, that would explain it. I'm afraid if I use the same colors to the same lugs on the Tone Zone its not going to work.