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Old 12-13-2012, 09:30 AM
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KA Motherbucker wire colors wrong?


Need the CORRECT wiring schematic,or wire color info on the kent armstrong motherbucker. Ive seen the schematics on the KA website & when wired that way,i get no sound at all.
Its a brand new P/U .... Ive wired just the red to output & blak bare to ground & got sound but lotta hum ,but atleast i know it works.
Ive been searching the net for DAYS & from what a few have said on different forums is that the KA diagram has the P/ups reversed ?
Another shows RED going to ground & white as HOT. oddly enuff.
What Im wondering is ....... Does anyone know for sure what the correct color code is for the KA MB ? dont have a multimeter.
My setup is .....MB=bridge ,1 vol,3 way switch. << I just need to know Whats Hot & what gets wired together & taped off & whats ground As basing it on the KA website diagram doesnt work & there is some mixed info around the net on this "whats hot" theory.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:34 AM
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Re: KA Motherbucker wire colors wrong?


maybe if someone has or had the MB and could enlighten me on the correct color codes
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:22 AM
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Re: KA Motherbucker wire colors wrong?


Try this:

http://www.freewebs.com/guitarbuild/wiring.jpg
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:48 PM
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I tried that diagram & also the one on the KA website & they both show Red as Hot. Ive ran acrossed a few articles on other forums where some guys were asking hookup info & no matter what theyre response was they couldnt get them wired in right Mostly because its dealing with 8+ wires on one pickup & theres lots of possibilities I guess,or Options I should say. Im simply trying to run it In series so I get the most of out it. No push pulls, no minis, faily bare bones setup. Just having a hellovatime gettting it going.. I guess Im gonna unhook everything & try hooking it up directly to the output jack & go from there.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:48 AM
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Re: KA Motherbucker wire colors wrong?


I'm still looking, bud.
I'll find a proper diagram for you!
What switch are you using? Could you post a pic of the lugs?
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:32 PM
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Hi, Thanx. Much appreciated. Im just using a regular 3 way switch. Want me to post a pic of the volume pot lugs? its just a regular cts 500k with 3 lugs on it. I can try & get my camera up & running if need be.

Just got an email from kasales (ka website) and he says he just runs both reds to the switch together & both greens to ground & both bares to ground* < wouldnt this make them "parallel"? I need them to run in series
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:54 PM
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Re: KA Motherbucker wire colors wrong?


Hard to tell, really.
Until I find an accurate diagram, I don't know which leads go to whick pole positions.
Still looking, though.
You sure did have to pick out one funky pickup--didn't ya????
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:41 PM
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Hard to tell, really.
Until I find an accurate diagram, I don't know which leads go to whick pole positions.
Still looking, though.
You sure did have to pick out one funky pickup--didn't ya????

oh tell me about it ..... just finished trying what the kasales guy told me & got Nothing. will try some more tomorrow I guess. yeh its 10 wires total. Red,green,white,black,bare x2
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Re: KA Motherbucker wire colors wrong?


Might try wiring it with the diagram you have, but just connect each color together to the appropriate lugs, switch and ground.
Try green and bare to ground (bottom of pot)
Black and white together to same lug and red to switch.
Might work....
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:14 PM
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I have an old cord with the end missing .....Gonna try & wire up each pickup Directly to the hot lead on the 1/4" cord & go from there.
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I have an old cord with the end missing .....Gonna try & wire up each pickup Directly to the hot lead on the 1/4" cord & go from there.
What about the ground?

Might want to do it right, or you won't get the results you're looking for.
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UPDATE: Ive manually wired it up direct to an old cut cord missing an end, other end to the amp ofcoarse ......... Out of frusteration,I started hooking up randoim wires on one of the pickups & ended up with .......... RED=Hot , Green/bare -Ground , Blk & white taped together THEN I repeated the exact same thing on the 2nd pickup & THEN took the white & black wires that were wired together off by themselves & wired them together.

SO- To simplify ... I have 2 reds going to the same hot lead .....2 greens 2 blks to ground & 2 whites & 2 blaks wired together & taped off by themselves.
This probably isnt fully correct, but atleast all 4 coilds are functioning,just have a light buzzing/hum sound,which may just be withing the ground wires . ATLEAST I have a big fat Sound,atleast. calling it a night. pleased with the results so far,finally.
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What about the ground?

Might want to do it right, or you won't get the results you're looking for.
Just seen your reply. sorry ,I didnt read here before I posted my update. yeh its not 100% correct probably ........but i was just happy to finally get some operation or sound out of them atleast for now. Will continue on later. Sure has a Big sound to the tone. Im just tuned standard 440 & it sounds heavy.
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Just seen your reply. sorry ,I didnt read here before I posted my update. yeh its not 100% correct probably ........but i was just happy to finally get some operation or sound out of them atleast for now. Will continue on later. Sure has a Big sound to the tone. Im just tuned standard 440 & it sounds heavy.
Cool--glad you're making progress!
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Re: KA Motherbucker wire colors wrong?


Based on your results--sounds like the color codes are just like DiMarzios.

Try that next--all wired up.
Now might be a good time to make a small investment in a multimeter
You can get a simple one for $10.00
:invaluable tool for all wire and power troubleshooting.

Hell--you're in the States--go to Radio Shack.
This will certainly help you isolate the poles.
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