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Old 10-17-2012, 08:05 PM
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Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


Just wanted to let you know about my magnet swapping experience. Today was my first attempt. I have always known it would be easy, but just kind of felt the manufacture made the pickup this way for a reason so why mess with it. I am still not sure I will mess with my newer pickup, but since I have several INF and QM's I figured why not. The guitar used for testing the mod is a 97 S540.

I never been a big fan of Dimarzio, I like a lot of music that was made using thier pickups but they never really worked well for me, I tend to be more in Seymour camp. I do have a Super D and PAF Pro I like, EVO's are ok, Norton seemed good but didn't really do what I wanted for a particular guitar. But as I started experimenting with a larger variety of Duncan's and Dimarzio's one common theme emerged, I don't usually like ceramic magnet pickups. I actually usually end up with Alnico II pickups, and occassionally Alnico 5's, but rarely cermics.

So I was going to buy some magnets to experiment with, specifically a couple A2's and A5's, but really didn't care to spend the few bucks with no good results. Then I realized I have a INF with an A5 so why not try that.

First I tried swapping the A5 for the ceramic in the QM2. I thought this would remove some ceramic grit and lower the output a bit. Well it did but the result was a thin bright sounding pickup. I was not impressed at all and immediately put the ceramic back in. Before the mod I kind of liked the QM2, not my favorite by any means but usable.

I felt like this was just a fialure and it kind of turned me off to the whole mag swap idea. But I still was not completely satisfied with the QM2 in the S540. Ok I will just put the a F2 in the S540, I really like the F2. Well that was OK but not really diggin it in this guitar.

Then I remembered LonePhantom's F2 mag swap. Then I thought "what about the half air mod?" I really like the F2 and really did not want to mod it, but hell you only live once and it was just gathering dust.

So I did both the A5 swap and the Half Air mod. WOW! It did exactly what I wanted on this pickup. Removed the ceramic grit, lowered the output even more while still remaining very close to the original tone. Love it, perfect for what I wanted (at least for now).

I made sound samples using Pro Tools but for some reason the file has an error so no beofre and after. Maybe a record the result in the next few days.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:43 PM
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Re: Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


Good to hear you had some success. the F2 with an alnico 5 magnet is very similar to a Tone Zone, so half-airing gives you very similar results too.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:58 AM
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Re: Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


And thank you for your tutorial and blog.
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:34 PM
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Re: Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


No problems, I'm just glad people find the stuff I do helpful.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:10 AM
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Re: Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


Man I wish I had a spare F2 kicking around! I want a set for my RG350MZYE, I love these pickups alot in my RG750! Any idea what the closest thing is to an F2?? Tone Zone maybe? I was thinking that I really like the F2 in the neck position but a tone zone would be ok in the bridge.

Other guitars I have are equiped with a SD invader in the bridge and I like it, I wonder if DiMarzio make anything comparable to it???

I for sure wouldn`t have the balls to to a mag swap haha! Good job, hope you`re happy with it!
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:54 PM
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Re: Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


Yes Tone Zone with a ceramic magnet is quite similar.

I've actually got an old F2 lying around in my studio. Its a bit beat up, but if you are looking for a cheap one to play with send me a pm.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:09 PM
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Re: Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


They make a tone zone with ceramic??? Will pm you for sure when I get home, thanks again! I wouldn`t play around with the F2, I`d use it, love those for some odd reason.
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:08 PM
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Re: Magnet swap on F2 and QM2


No, Tone Zone doesn't have a ceramic magnet, you need to swap it over yourself.
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