Need Help Choosing Between Dimarzio P'ups!!!!!

pwnzor · #1 09-23-2008, 02:20 AM

Well Ive narrowed My Search down to....
Neck Tones:
Breed Neck
Air Norton

Bridge Tones:
Breed Bridge
Tone Zone
Super Distortion
*Maybe Air Zone or a Regular Norton Not sure on these.

Quick run down of my rig. I play a Crate V30 (El84) tone.. through a detuned 4x12, which has a g12h30 and g12m in it. Very classic rockish sounding. This can be pushed into hi-gain territory quite easily, and I love my mids. I play a Mahogany Guitar with rosewood Fretboard, String through bridge. I boost the mids up front with an EQ pedal.

I'm wanting really warm/fat tones, really organic and lively sounding stuff. Nothing too clinical or sterile please. But Im also worried at times.. that if I get too warm of a pickup, then its not gonna cut, itll just be flabby and mushy with no real chunk or crunch to it. Right now I think im preferring the Breed neck over the Air norton, because ive heard it sounds less sterile, slightly more versatile, maybe a bit fatter/warmer...? Slightly better cleans maybe... unsure on that one.

As far as Bridge pickups go... its a toss up. I take it those are all good pickups. I chose ones which I thought were pretty warm/organic sounding. Wanting a Fat, chunky Bridge rhythm tone. Lotsa chug with some harmonics here n there. Cant be too muddy either. A little bit is ok... i can prolly eq out or just deal with.. but not too much. I like a thick Midrange driven Crunch with my tone, not an overly bright, sizzly fizzle quality on top.

I'd like to be able to tone both down and do some classic rock stuff... and when I think classic rock... the tone im going for is thick mids... but with a Zakk wylde... Pride and Glory type of Saturation. Cuz you can still do good Classic covers with a heavier od like that... Just gotta be careful not to Over saturate too much. No icepicky highs... OR complete mud lows... nice defined thick raunchy mid range. I like to play really melodic/ dare i say pretty stuff. So i go for a really Vocal type lead tone..Lotsa mids/rolled off hghs. Thanks.. and i know im asking for alot but your guys inputs are really appreciated and i look forward to hearing what has to be said. Thanks alot!!!

kotornut · #2 09-23-2008, 02:23 AM

If you use the search function I'm sure you can find more than enough info on each DiMarzio pickup.

pwnzor · #3 09-23-2008, 02:51 AM

I think ive read practically every thread about each of these, but I was just wondering peoples direct opinions of each, becuase ive never had any of these p'ups. I wanted people to be able to know what i wanted to do with them, and which would suit me better. A comparison of Pro's and con's i suppose is what was looking for. Believe me i didnt get lazy and just start this thread without looking. Ive spent the past 3 days straight doing nothing but searching different forums for all the info i can find. I just wanna know which people would recommend for me, with my gear...

kotornut · #4 09-23-2008, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pwnzor

I think ive read practically every thread about each of these, but I was just wondering peoples direct opinions of each,

Really? Because I believe some other users with mahogany guitars rosewood fingerboards, and fixed bridge guitars have also asked about pickups before. Also, we all want to be unique and are, but we all own guitars that are for the most part not on of a kind and even still that differ so much so that you could not find anything that adressed your situation.

Seriously, tons of people every week ask pup questions the majority of them with either mahogany, alder, ash, or bass wood guitars with either maple or rosewood figerboards. Looking for thick organic tones.　It's not a new request nor is it a unique one. Are you entirely sure you searched? There is more than enough opinions and pro's and con's discussion when you look through the search pages.

pwnzor · #5 09-23-2008, 03:41 AM

Well yea i think set neck... mahogany guitars/rosewood fretboard and fixed bridges have to be one of the most common guitar combos out there no doubt. And yes im entirely sure i searched. Ive read every thread on this forum that has to deal with each of these pickups. I can show you links from my history if you dont believe me. But reading so much about all of these pickups.. just made my decision that much harder, because i realize there are so many strong points in each of these. Just as each has their disadvantages. The more I seem to read, the harder the decision seems to become. And some people are very contradicting to one another... As some say TZ in mahogany = Mud others say it doesnt, just a really thick sometimes overly dark tone, and others say it sounds amazing. I never said I was in search for a New or unique tone. I want thick crunchy midrange driven tone. Thats not new or unique. And I really dont appreciate being attacked, on my first post of a new forum. I didnt think I was doing anything wrong by asking this question, I know alot of this has been asked before but its also usually by people who have been playing guitar for a year in their bedroom and want the most "brootalz" mid scooped tone out there. That kind of tone does not help me out at all, and while a pickup might sound amazing scooped in a bedroom, its an entirely different beast opened up into a live venue, 30 watt stack wide open, with a nice boost up front, Mids roaring. To me this is kind of a let down because for the most part, from my reading.. A MAJORITY of the people here seem very willing to help.. but I suppose theres always the few that arent.

*Edit*
And in the time you spent attacking me, and attempting to ridicule me. You could have been of some sort of help. You could have easily voiced your opinion, told me your input and what you think I should get. But instead you wasted your time and my time, and quite frankly the time of any one who decides to read your previous posts. They are of no help to anyone at all, in any way. So idk what your deal is, maybe you didnt get laid like you expected to tonite or maybe your just having an off day. Im gonna play the nice guy.. and look past this and not judge you or this forum off of your previous rant.

pwnzor · #6 09-23-2008, 04:20 AM

Thread Closed.

kotornut · #7 09-23-2008, 11:21 AM

no ridicule, or attacks just telling you what we all get told. Sorry you took it that way.

pwnzor · #8 09-23-2008, 09:14 PM

Ok well then I'd like to apologize on my own behalf, and I see exactly what you meant. I'm sorry for getting so defensive.. But yea lol i did ask a really vague/common question, I just dunno much about the pups as Ive only owned a JB and a D activator bridge model... and well a '59 neck. But I started a new post, that will hopefully be more helpful and its on 2 pickups that are less commonly chosen, but are both really unique, and IMHO really good pups, hoping i can put some info out there on them and be of some help, and about two neck p'ups i think could actually sound decent in the bridge and/or neck. Sorry for getting on you so hard about that, I've just been in a bad mood recently... Things havent been going my way, ive had a recent knee surgery and have been diagnosed with early signs of cancer, but they said I should be fine, but i suppose im just stressed, my bad... and i hope we can just start new and not hold grudges

**elcid** · #9 09-23-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kotornut

If you use the search function I'm sure you can find more than enough info on each DiMarzio pickup.

Kotor
You seem to have forgotten the proper reply should inform the person of the search function and also include this

pwnzor · #10 09-23-2008, 10:57 PM

rofl... thats great.. Made me chuckle

Foulacy · #11 09-24-2008, 02:04 AM

Personally, I don't like breed's and they'd probably be too mushy sounding in your guitar. I've heard mixed reviews about tone zone's in mahogany. I have no experience and haven't read much about super distortions in mahogany. as far as neck pup is concerned, air norton.

pwnzor · #12 09-24-2008, 03:14 AM

yea idk about tone zones in mahogany seems to me its a toss up. But yea i was leaning toward the Breed neck but everyone keeps pointing to the AN so air norton in neck it is. Now for a Bridge pup... I really wanna try a Air norton in the bridge... or an air zone. Both seem like they sound good and 2 airbuckers in the geet would mean massive sustain since there would be such low magnet pull.

HeavyMetal4Ever · #13 09-24-2008, 09:56 AM

The best way to form opinions on pickups (or any gear really) is to play every guitar you can get your hands on, with every specification possible, through every amp available. After playing lots of different gear you will have a much better idea of exactly what gear you need to get the tone you want.

It's all about what YOU like best, not what we like best.

Rock on!

pwnzor · #14 09-24-2008, 10:23 AM

i know... but im a good 3-4 hours away from any place that might have some guitars for me to play. And im not too fond of guitarcenters ... so the best alternatives is to gather as many opinions as i can from as many people as i can... if the majority of people agree on something about a pup then i assume thats the general consensus and trust that and consider it as good as my opinion.