Super Distortion + Super 2

cassie · #1 05-27-2004, 04:48 PM

Planning on going with this combo in my SCA220. Anybody have an experience with this combo?

frankfalbo · #2 05-28-2004, 01:33 AM

I went with this against all my better judgement and couldn't be happier. I don't know what kind of switching is on that SCA220 but the various single coil combinations are fantastic, too. The SD is sort of compressed and thick, and the S2 is very bright and crisp, but also a little compressed. So since I have lots of guitars it's a totally useable sound as part of my arsenal. I would say, however, that if it's your only guitar, or if you're after a loose, open, airy vintage Gibson sound, you should choose something else. If you've already heard the SD in the bridge and you liked it, it would be a great combination for you.

cassie · #3 05-28-2004, 11:30 AM

I've heard the clips of the SD from the Dimarzio website and I really like what I heard. Right now the V6's in my guitar are medium output so I'd like something hotter. I'm after the classic rock, hard rock, metal tones.

Yes! My guitar has a 5-way switch with single coil tapping, so that's another reason I was leaning towards the SD- the dimarzio tech said that was a good pickup for tapping.

The only thing I'm worried about is if the Super 2 in the neck is going to be too hot -- I've not heard what a Super 2 sounds like but the other option I keep getting from other message boards is to get a PAF -- I'm not to fond of the sound of that pup, but maybe it would work well with the SD -- however I keep going back to the question how does the PAF sound with coil tapping? I have a feeling the Super 2 will be better suited for that.

Have you had any expereince with tapping a PAF?

VOLTAGE · #4 05-28-2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cassie

I've heard the clips of the SD from the Dimarzio website and I really like what I heard. Right now the V6's in my guitar are medium output so I'd like something hotter. I'm after the classic rock, hard rock, metal tones.

Yes! My guitar has a 5-way switch with single coil tapping, so that's another reason I was leaning towards the SD- the dimarzio tech said that was a good pickup for tapping.

The only thing I'm worried about is if the Super 2 in the neck is going to be too hot -- I've not heard what a Super 2 sounds like but the other option I keep getting from other message boards is to get a PAF -- I'm not to fond of the sound of that pup, but maybe it would work well with the SD -- however I keep going back to the question how does the PAF sound with coil tapping? I have a feeling the Super 2 will be better suited for that.

Have you had any expereince with tapping a PAF?

I just sent money for a used super II and a tone zone.($50 for both!)
the TZ is going in the bridge of my RG for the fattest tone possible but in your guitar

the super distortion will work great.
the super II i am getting because it is very paul gilbert like in the neck spot, sounds like a real hot single coil pup almost.
if you have ever heard PG's playing his neck tone is real slick and glassy.
it is a very hot pup for the bridge BUT you can keep it low to the strings and reduce the power some

that is what i plan on doing,i am setting it very far from the strings and it will balance better with the TZ

cassie · #5 05-28-2004, 06:01 PM

Thanks for that Voltage! I think with the 5 way switch and single coil options there will be some great tone variety there.

The TZ and SII sound like a pretty cool combo too. Lemmie know how you make out with it!

VOLTAGE · #6 06-01-2004, 11:30 AM

just to clarify paul gilbert used a super II with old racer X,he also uses a paf pro,HFH in the neck on other PGM ibanez guitars

cassie · #7 06-01-2004, 02:27 PM

Paul Guilbert used the Super Distortion and the Super II combo in Racer X? Do you know which albums?

cassie · #8 06-01-2004, 02:31 PM

Oh, yeah, you said the Super II sounds like a real hot single coil pup, it does stay clean though right? I mean it doesn't go over the edge and get ratty sounding when using it clean does it? I know it's got a LOT of trebel.

cassie · #9 06-01-2004, 02:41 PM

I've also been told that the Air Norton is a good match with the Super Distortion. Any thoughts or experience with the Air Norton?

Mandrak · #10 06-01-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

I've also been told that the Air Norton is a good match with the Super Distortion. Any thoughts or experience with the Air Norton?

It´s my favourite, but there´s a big output difference between the
Air Norton and the Super Distortion; 425 - 270 = 155mV.
I´d look for a more balanced combination if I was you.
Ah, you could try the Norton instead.

steve · #11 06-01-2004, 07:49 PM

No; the neck pickup, to balance well, should be lower in output, as it produces more volume in the neck position, due to the wider string vibration envelope at that point in the length of the strings...
Check out the voltages of a properly matched set of pickups, and you'll see; the bridge one is hotter... and the neck position one will usually be made brighter for clarity.

The_Grindfiend · #12 06-02-2004, 12:50 AM

I'll soon be putting a Super Distortion in my RG 550, and I've decided on the Humbucker from Hell for the neck, because, as Steve said, the neck pickup should be brighter and cooler to match well.

germX · #13 06-02-2004, 10:18 AM

i have the Super2 in the neck of my S540 pictured here. the bridge pickup is a MegaDrive.

what i like about the Super2 is that it has enough midrange to prevent the neck tone from manifesting muddy notes. i hear less treble from the Super2 compared to the Super Distortion, the reason why i like it.

cassie · #14 06-02-2004, 10:49 AM

Does anybody have clips of the Super 2 in the Neck?? I think I just really need to hear one. Clean and Distorted.

The one thing I'm afraid of is that the Super 2 will overpower the Super Distortion. And also that the Super 2 will not stay clean when cranked.

Thanks guys. This is helping. I'm digesting all the advice.

VOLTAGE · #15 06-02-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Does anybody have clips of the Super 2 in the Neck?? I think I just really need to hear one. Clean and Distorted.

The one thing I'm afraid of is that the Super 2 will overpower the Super Distortion. And also that the Super 2 will not stay clean when cranked.

Thanks guys. This is helping. I'm digesting all the advice.

I dont have any clips, but i can tell you after putting a super II in yesterday that it is not as hot as everyone says it is?
it is a very good pup and is only at 8.2K which is the same as a PAF.
the reason the pup is so loud compared to a old PAF(8.2K) is the large ceramic magnet.
it is actually clean but powerful

the tone zone in the bridge is a monster fat pup,which gives my ibanez a Les paul tone