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post #91 of 260 (permalink) Old 01-17-2003, 01:11 PM
 
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Did anyone notice from the rguser photos the 24 fret double cutaway LesPaul?
Smooth.
Finaly a valid reason do ignore the PRS brand alltogether.
Actually the Les Paul Std DC has been around for years, just not really hyped. It's got a chambered body, ebony board, 24 frets, and the rest of the specs match a Les Paul Std except the price which is around $1300 I believe. I've heard quite a few people say that it sounds more like an ES-335 than a Paul though, because of the chambers.
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I agree with Glen here.
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The MM is the only barritone offered in the US. The 1077XL is dead here, but that doesn't mean it won't live on as a 1077 or 2077 offshore.

No idea when the new models will start trickeling in, but parts of Asia have already seen some.
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keeping the best trem exclusive to JEM (and other sig models) would be idiotic from an Ibanez point of view
Jemsite i am not ibanez and i don't think it is being idiotic.
If you put the best trems on all guitars the fact is it will be an excuse to raise prices on cheaper models and make less differenciation between low grade $400 guitars and $2000 guitars. Also while your puting the best trems on all the guitars why don't you put great pick ups in, and great woods aswell etc.........? Simple Ibanez cater for the 12yr olds (and all ages) who have no money want a rock axe.[quote]

Actually, it WOULD be idiotic. Do you seriously think that by having even MORE tremolo options available, that Ibanez would be able to keep costs down? That's a BIG part of the reason that the Edge & LoPro have always been on the Japanese Signature models AND the standard RG's, S', etc. It keeps costs down. By having a "special" tremolo for the signature models, prices would be even higher than they already are. Twice the machining, twice the materials, twice the overall costs. This would equal BAD business (and Ibanez/Hoshino IS a business.) The whole point is to keep costs of the different models at a minimum, which results in better sales overall.

Besides...what hardware/electronics/asthetics appear on the signature models are 100% up to the artist (i.e. Vai, Satriani, etc.). Ibanez has VERY little say in the matter, as noted in countless other posts on this Forum.
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I don't know if this was covered in other threads, but does anyone know if the Edge Pro can retrofit into existing Lo-Pro guitars? Or, conversely, if I don't like the Edge Pro, can I pop in an old Lo-Pro?
This being a concern of mine...I will look into it ;-)
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This being a concern of mine...I will look into it ;-)
Much appreciated!
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Trem section up. I'll probably have to tweak the text but it's a good start. I have to get packed now and get outta Dodge so questions will have to wait, oh, about a 9 hour flight!

http://www.ibanezrules.com/namm/2003/trems.htm
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I think the Lo Pro is still the best LOOKING trem :P Jury is out on best performance.
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check out this 1520!!!
http://www.chicagowebs.com/guitars/n...1/DSCN1520.JPG

and tons of pix.
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I like the look of the new trems. I will give them a full test tomorrow and ask a bunch of questions.
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Thanx Rich......OH!! The guitar!!
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The MM is the only barritone offered in the US. The 1077XL is dead here, but that doesn't mean it won't live on as a 1077 or 2077 offshore.
Well, doesn't that just figure.
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Getting back to the marketing issue with the trems....

I agree with the guy who says Ibanez should keep the costs down, but look what Epiphone has done with their "Elite" line. I see the lower lines coming up in price (and quality) to the USA Gibsons- the message is getting blurred- Example: an Epiphone LP Custom at a $900. pricepoint? Comon, I can buy a used gibson for that any day of the week. I fear the 333's (won't sell here huh?) are some back-office geek's idea of another avenue of distribution for developing revenue to Ibanez. I just hope we don't see another Fender/CBS, or Jackson type deal happening.
Ibanez has spent years and $ to become a quality name in the industry and I'd hate to see them cheapen their image just to boost their stock price up a few points.
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The 333's weren't just a brainfart, Steve (Himself) explained the reason behind it ;-)
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Just one question: Where's the 1077XL?
It was the first thing I tried to look up on Rich's site.

Man I pray that the rg section of his site is only a PREVIEW

I thought the RG1077XL was going to be renamed to RG2077XL.
Man I sure hope they didnt forget something at Ibanez, I'd die if there won't be any 7 string XL neck in the 2003 lineup. Ive been wanting to put my hands on one for a long time.
No RG1077XL or 2077XL for the US, but that could be different depending on what country you're in.

The only 7's worth mentioning that were in the catalog are the UV, RG1527, and the K7. Then there's the Korean and Chinese guitars.
That's really unfortunate. I have a 7421XL and the long scale is perfect for 7 string. I was hoping we'd see a bunch of XL's, but if we don't, then I wouldn't be surprised if Ibanez got out of the 7 string market entirely, or perhaps cut back to a token presence at best.
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