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post #1 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 01:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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Cost of living in Australia

There is a reasonable possibility that my wife may get offered a job in Australia in the next few months in either Brisbane or Adelaide. I have been doing some research and found a lot of negative comments about the quality of life (poor service, housing not great etc etc) and cost of living compared to the UK, US and Europe.

I was surprised by this as it is the complete opposite of what I have heard before.

So, does anyone have any feeback on living in Australia?

What sort of wage do you think a small family (just the 3 of us) might need to get by on and live comfortably?

What is the healthcare like and is it necessary to go private, and the same with education and schools?

Also, the spiders. Seriously, how often have you seen the really big or dangerous ones. I am pretty relaxed about the buggers in the UK, but doing some reading I am not comfortable about the idea of funnel webs wandering into the house if it is a common occurence.
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post #2 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 03:18 AM
 
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Re: Cost of living in Australia

Cost of living in Brisbane has increased recently, but I don't think it's that bad.

Spider wise, funnelwebs aren't too common, but they are nasty.
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I moved to a place quite a way south of Sydney near a big national park a year ago if you're going to get nasty spiders anywhere its in this area. I've only had 2 spiders in the house, 1 huntsman in my daughters room and an unknown little bugger that I promptly killed. I've lived I'm Aus 8 years now and never seen a funnelweb or similar so don't worry

It's more expensive to live in Sydney than people think but the standard of living is so much better than England and I would know I lived in England for 27 years. If you don't mind living out in the burbs I guarantee you will love it, I loved the city too for 7 years but needed a bigger house and garden etc. for my daughter.
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post #4 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 04:19 AM
 
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Re: Cost of living in Australia

I live in newcastle, but its still expensive as.


But, get this
im 16, about to do school certificate,
I wish to go into law/Music when im older....
doing law will still be enough to get by, but if I was a session musician, i hardly have a chance.......
and also Australian guitar pricing sucks too!


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post #5 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 07:04 AM
 
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If you're used to the UK, I understand Australia is MUCH cheaper. Adelaide's quite nice - very strong arts/cultural scene, easy to get around, clean. My partner's from there so I've visited it quite a lot. (I've never been to Brisbane so I can't comment there).

There's a running joke in Australia that Adelaide's 50 years behind everyone else but I don't know where that came from because it's actually the opposite: the population there is such a close representation of the whole scope of Australia that it's often used as a test market for new products and technologies.

You don't need to go private to get good health care, although of course you'd get 'more' if you go private. Spiders aren't a problem in Adelaide as far as I know.

Also, Adelaide has a store called The Ibanez Guitar Centre. What more do you need?
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post #6 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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Cost of living in Brisbane has increased recently, but I don't think it's that bad.

Spider wise, funnelwebs aren't too common, but they are nasty.
How often have you seen them? I have read how nasty they can be. The deadliness doesn't bother me, but the aggression/running at you does.

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If you're used to the UK, I understand Australia is MUCH cheaper. Adelaide's quite nice - very strong arts/cultural scene, easy to get around, clean. My partner's from there so I've visited it quite a lot. (I've never been to Brisbane so I can't comment there).

There's a running joke in Australia that Adelaide's 50 years behind everyone else but I don't know where that came from because it's actually the opposite: the population there is such a close representation of the whole scope of Australia that it's often used as a test market for new products and technologies.

You don't need to go private to get good health care, although of course you'd get 'more' if you go private. Spiders aren't a problem in Adelaide as far as I know.

Also, Adelaide has a store called The Ibanez Guitar Centre. What more do you need?
Ok, doesn't sound too bad.

I read a lot of comments from people from the US saying that Aus was v. expensive and not great to live in:

http://www.expatforum.com/articles/c...australia.html

Maybe it is just expensive for people who haven't lived in the UK.

Saying that, looking at rental prices of $500+ /week for a 3 bed house does sound comparable to, if not slightly more expensive than the UK.
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One of my co-workers was transferred to Sydney about a year and a half ago. He says that it's brutally expensive for living expenses such as food, etc. His work pays his housing, and he says if it wasn't for that, they'd be screwed. They're a family of five tho, so if it's just the two of you it might be more manageable. I guess it depends on your standard of living, too. I guess his family isn't too happy about the move either, saying they miss the way of life/standard of living in the US. They say the people there are top-notch, but the lifestyle isn't for them. Also the food is quite different for an American palate. Not that it's better or worse, just tastes different. Guy eats like a pig whenever he gets back to the US because his money goes so much further and the food is much more to his liking. Your mileage, naturally, may vary.

I've been to Sydney and Brisbane, but just for work travel, and for short periods of time. Yeah, food and gas are expensive. To me the food didn't have much taste, but I didn't starve, either. Can't comment on the housing. There's plenty to do and the people are very cool. I think if you go into it with the mindset that you're going to enjoy your time there, you probably will. If you think you won't like it, you probably won't. It's not the US or the UK, it's Australia. Not better or worse as far as living goes, just different. If you're open minded and welcome new experiences, it might be a good move for you. If you're going to be disappointed if it's not just like the UK, I'd stay home.

As for the spiders, it's probably like it was for me moving to Hawaii. They talk about the big spiders and the giant centipedes here. The centipedes had me a little worried - I can deal w/ big spiders and other bugs, but the centipedes here ARE huge and really creepy! They're mostly in rural areas, apparently. I haven't seen a single one since I've been here (thank God!). I'm guessing the more populated the area you live in, the fewer bugs you're going to deal with.
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How often have you seen them? I have read how nasty they can be. The deadliness doesn't bother me, but the aggression/running at you does.
Honestly, I've seen two not in a zoo, etc in my 31 years on this planet. I had a shovel in my hand, they ran at me, they didn't last long.

Don't be so worried about them. We have a saying here, "harden the f&@k up!". You'll be right.

It's the snakes you want to look out for.
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post #9 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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How old are you? If you're young enough then I'd say go for it for sure. If you don't like it, you can always come back. Nothing's forever these days. It will just be another amazing life experience.

I know a couple of people who've emigrated to oz from the UK, and by all accounts they love it. Not really heard much negative about the cost of living, but certainly they're all really chuffed with the increase quality of life. Sunshine, good public services, plenty of space.

Give it a whirl
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post #10 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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Australia is currently massively expensive for any Brit because of the exchange rate, so don't expect your savings to go far once you convert to Aussie dollars.

Once you're living out there (assuming your wife is getting paid in Aussie dollars rather than being paid a sterling salary from the UK) relative costs are not going to be far different to the UK (expensive!), but expect house prices/rents to be equal or higher (house prices went up 20% in the 12 months to March 2010). Of course it will depend to a degree where you live.

My opinion, having lived out there, quality of life is far better. The culture is much more recognisably British than the US, which is why I suspect Americans find it less to their satisfaction (there is no great service culture in Australia!), but I found it much more relaxed and friendlier than living in the UK. And of course the weather is great (and don't underestimate how much good that will do you).

But let's not pretend Australia doesn't, like all countries, have its problems too (eg drugs, racial tensions, social deprivation, anti-social behaviour) - of course your exposure to any of that will depend on where you end up, and you may see no sign of it at all.

Medicare will give you roughly comparable service and coverage to the NHS, but much like the NHS if you want better service you'll have to pay for it privately.

Don't worry about the spiders at all, I hate the buggers and only saw one close to home in the 18 months I was out there (a redback on my balcony that had no answer to the bug spray, and actually was the least fearsome thing you could imagine!). Everyone has a story about Uncle Bill from Mudgee who flipped down his car sun visor and had a huntsman the size of a dinner plate fall in his lap but the reality is you will probably never see one. In all seriousness I found more of a hassle with the bush flies.

I don't think you'd regret going out (everyone I know who did it, loved it). I know I loved it, and I've currently got an offer on the table to go back out and have no reservations about doing it at all.
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post #11 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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I had a shovel in my hand, they ran at me, they didn't last long.

It's the snakes you want to look out for.
Yes, it is the "running at you" bit I have a problem with actually.

Seriously though, after doing a bit more research I will, as you suggest, just harden the f$k up

Snakes don't worry me at all, but what about the drop bears?
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post #12 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 09:37 PM Thread Starter
 
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Anyway, all good info, thanks guys.

It sounds like a comparable place in price to the UK with a more relaxed attitude. I had a friend who lived in NZ for a while and I visited there and loved it. I believe that Aus is a bit more colourful, but basically a friendlier place than the UK.
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LMFAO!!!!
Food tastes bland....WTF!!! lol
$500 a week rent.....WTF!! lol that's more than my mortgage for 4 bedrooms,2 bathrooms,2 living areas,7 car shed,walk in robe,pantry and enough land to build another house.(only rent in the heart of sydney city would really cost this for a small place).

Anyway,Australia is a top notch lifestyle and I'm very lucky to have made it here.
Free health care.
AWESOME weather and open space.
There is no issue with anything too deadly in the city or burb's other than Redback spiders and the odd very rare Brown snake(Adelaide). I've killed 3 or 4 snakes but only when i lived on the outskirts of the burbs. My wife was bitten by a redback a cpl of months back and just sat at hospital until the headache past,it was'nt a big fat female but a juvenile so no threat really and no one has died from a red back bite in my time here. The spider was in our bed though!!
Fuel is expensive,but we have no control over it. I paid a $1.30aud yesterday for 100 octane blend but i live 10 mins from work,so who cares!? If I'm in my muscle car i'll consume 90 litres in a cpl of hours of heavy foot action,who cares...not me.

The BEST country in the world for me,i won't be moving back to my home country!!
I live in Adelaide which is small enough to be quiet when you want,but has plenty to do when you want,very art orientated. The only negative to Adelaide is big tours will skip us now and again as we're only 8hrs drive from Melbourne. I have been all over the world and OZ and i always long to come back home to Adelaide,the only other place i would consider moving is Brisbane/Goldcoast which IMO is THE best place in OZ.

Don't believe too much of the negatives your told because to be honest,most Australians don't want people coming here.
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post #14 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-03-2010, 08:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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$500 a week rent.....WTF!! lol that's more than my mortgage for 4 bedrooms,2 bathrooms,2 living areas,7 car shed,walk in robe,pantry and enough land to build another house.(only rent in the heart of sydney city would really cost this for a small place).

[/QUOTE]

That price was based on 3 bed houses in Brisbane and Adelaide, fairly central or close to the Uni. They are on:

http://www.property.com.au

http://www.domain.com.au/

Am I looking in the wrong place?
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post #15 of 100 (permalink) Old 11-03-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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for some perspective, here in southwest georgia i see a rattlesnake or any other poisonous snake every couple of weeks.
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