Grammar!!!! Please.... - Jemsite
Off-topic / Miscellaneous Talk about miscellaneous stuff off-topic and not related to music, guitars or bands. No music, gear or anything guitar related here please.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 08:31 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,398
Grammar!!!! Please....

No personal digs at anyone here! I hope it'll be helpful, as I hate to imagine people sending out their CVs etc with bad grammar within. But there are some real mistakes flying around this forum that make me cringe.

I.e. I just got two prestige's... My amp's are broken etc.... is WRONG.

Apostrophes are not used to indicate plural, nor are they just random things to put on the end of every word with an "s" on the end. They are used for abbreviation and possession only.

I.e. Jim's amp. Daniel's guitar. ==> The amp of Jim. The guitar of Daniel.

If it is a plural possession, the apostrophe comes after the "s".

I.e. The dogs' kennels. The footballers' changing room. ===> The kennel of the dogs. The changing room of the footballers.

If the word is already plural, just use the apostrophe regularly (before the "s") as the plural is already implied.

I.e. The women's changing room. The people's republic.

^^ Because it belongs TO the women, people etc, and they are referred to as a collective. "The dogs' kennels" must have it after the s, as otherwise it would be the kennel of the dog. This way it is the kennel of the dogs.
If it belonged to a group of women, to say "the womens' kennel" would be saying it is the kennel of several groups of women. Hence "women's kennel" = it belongs to one group of women.

Apostrophes can also be used to abbreviate words, substituting the missing letters.

I.e. The dog is running away. ===> The dog's running away.
Bob has been gone a while. ===> Bob's been gone a while.


Something that really bugs me is "I should of....", "If only he'd of..."

It's "I should HAVE bought the guitar." "If only he'd HAVE bought the guitar".

As in, I buy the guitar ==> I have bought the guitar ==> I should have bought the guitar.

Easy peasy. The reason people get confused is that it often gets abbreviated down to "would've" or "should've", which sounds like 'of'. But it's 'have' or 've.

I'm sorry. Rant over. Hope I've helped someone. Thanks guys!

Last edited by dannymills; 01-16-2007 at 03:55 AM. Reason: Grammar!
dannymills is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 09:15 AM
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bristol UK
Posts: 169
Wink Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Can I just say how much I enjoyed seeing this thread appear right next to the "how can I loose some weight?" thread.

Being as loose is the the opposite of tight..
Maybe try to "lose some weight" instead.

Seems like Dannymills still has a lot of work left to do in his crusade for a mistake free Jemsite.
ibaraki_gaijin is offline  
post #3 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,398
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibaraki_gaijin View Post
Can I just say how much I enjoyed seeing this thread appear right next to the "how can I loose some weight?" thread.

Being as loose is the the opposite of tight..
Maybe try to "lose some weight" instead.

Seems like Dannymills still has a lot of work left to do in his crusade for a mistake free Jemsite.
Lmao!!!! Irony for ya...
dannymills is offline  
post #4 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 09:44 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 287
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by dannymills View Post


Something that really bugs me is "I should of....", "If only he'd of..."

It's "I should HAVE bought the guitar." "If only he'd HAVE bought the guitar".
Dude you are making me sooooo happy for bringing that up. Being a non native english speaker, I always wondered why so many native americans are consistently making this error on this board, and well, it makes me shiver every time. At one point I thought I was wrong and that there was a secret, by me unknown, rule for using "I would of" instead of good ol' "I would have" ... !!!
chlamy is offline  
post #5 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 10:06 AM
 
chef21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 676
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by dannymills View Post
Lmao!!!! Irony for ya...
irony for you...

somepeople.
chef21
chef21 is offline  
post #6 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 10:06 AM
dex
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 2,107
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Posting on forums is like txt spk.
Many posts are grammatically incorrect but they are still understandable to all posters and readers.
it's part of the whole language evolution thing.

Less emphasis on grammar, more emphasis on content.
That's what I say.
dex is offline  
post #7 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 10:16 AM
 
Eggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cumbria UK
Posts: 1,751
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by dannymills View Post
No personal digs at anyone here! I hope it'll be helpful, as I hate to imagine people sending out their CVs etc with bad grammar within. But there's some real mistakes flying around this forum that make me cringe.

I.e. I just got two prestige's... My amp's are broken etc.... is WRONG.

Apostrophes are not used to indicate plural, nor are they just random things to put on the end of every word with an "s" on the end. They are used for abbreviation and possession only.

I.e. Jim's amp. Daniel's guitar. ==> The amp of Jim. The guitar of Daniel.

If it is a plural possession, the apostrophe comes after the "s".

I.e. The dogs' kennels. The footballers' changing room. ===> The kennel of the dogs. The changing room of the footballers.

If the word is already plural, just use the apostrophe regularly (before the "s") as the plural is already implied.

I.e. The women's changing room. The people's republic.

^^ Because it belongs TO the women, people etc, and they are referred to as a collective. "The dogs' kennels" must have it after the s, as otherwise it would be the kennel of the dog. This way it is the kennel of the dogs.
If it belonged to a group of women, to say "the womens' kennel" would be saying it is the kennel of several groups of women. Hence "women's kennel" = it belongs to one group of women.

Apostrophes can also be used to abbreviate words, substituting the missing letters.

I.e. The dog is running away. ===> The dog's running away.
Bob has been gone a while. ===> Bob's been gone a while.


Something that really bugs me is "I should of....", "If only he'd of..."

It's "I should HAVE bought the guitar." "If only he'd HAVE bought the guitar".

As in, I buy the guitar ==> I have bought the guitar ==> I should have bought the guitar.

Easy peasy. The reason people get confused is that it often gets abbreviated down to "would've" or "should've", which sounds like 'of'. But it's 'have' or 've.

I'm sorry. Rant over. Hope I've helped someone. Thanks guys!
Wow !!!

Imagine if you redirected that energy into you guitar playing. Perhaps you could give "them wot cant spel n rite proper" a link to a video of your playing. They could post up about how frustrating your schoolboy errors are.



Ben
Eggy is offline  
post #8 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 10:19 AM
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Petaling Jaya, Malaysia
Posts: 2,445
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by dex View Post
Posting on forums is like txt spk.
Many posts are grammatically incorrect but they are still understandable to all posters and readers.
it's part of the whole language evolution thing.

Less emphasis on grammar, more emphasis on content.
That's what I say.
I don't understand why it would be hard to write 'your' instead of 'ur'. I mean, it's not as if each post has a word limit.

I say that grammar should be emphasised as much as content.
King Knall is offline  
post #9 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 10:26 AM
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 3,069
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Who care's? As long as you can read it, it be fine by me.
C.Thep is offline  
post #10 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 10:27 AM
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Petaling Jaya, Malaysia
Posts: 2,445
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.Thep View Post
Who care's? As long as you can read it, it be fine by me.
Very funny.
King Knall is offline  
post #11 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 11:02 AM
 
kennydoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 3,422
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

I put up a post like this years (year's?) ago...i got blasted for it.

People write like dolts and they don't mind writing like dolts. it's a sad state of affairs where poor spelling and writing skills are not only the norm, but people actually DEFEND their poor skills...and make you feel like a knob for even bringing it up!

I cringed when i read "loose weight" as well. The one that gets me is your/you're. Drive's me nuts (that was on purpose)

Unfortunately, it's something you'll have to deal with for the rest of your life. Nobody's going to change a damn thing here, that's for sure.

If you think someone is going to say "Gee, thanks for pointing that out - I'm going to make sure i don't misplace any more apostrophes becuase I'm afraid people will think i'm stupid or something", keep waiting.

I have friends who are teachers who can't spell or contract worth a crap - even easy words. It's pathetic, really.

K
kennydoe is offline  
post #12 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 11:09 AM
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Reading UK
Posts: 1,104
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

have you ever read the book "eats shoots and leaves" with a picture of a panda eating bamboo on the cover? i think its right up your street
timi_h is offline  
post #13 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 11:12 AM
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: london,uk
Posts: 6,512
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

I'se finks' its a good idear

I mean, their woz also a recent fred about "valeking" amps and i fort too meself "wots' one of dem??"

I don't mind grammar mistakes because not everyone is perfect, and not everyone from here comes from English speaking countries. They do a hell of a lot better than i could with a foreign language!! What i do find annoying are the posts that read the way kids text by omitting letters and shortening things like your to ur and all that crap. If you read it as it's written it sounds like some-one talking with a mouth crammed full of food
andy7jem is offline  
post #14 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,398
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggy View Post
Wow !!!

Imagine if you redirected that energy into you guitar playing. Perhaps you could give "them wot cant spel n rite proper" a link to a video of your playing.
Actually, I could if you'd like! I'd quite like to get some opinion. Afraid I don't have a video, but I did a track a while back... amp straight into computer lol! I'll do that later mate .
dannymills is offline  
post #15 of 166 (permalink) Old 01-15-2007, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,398
Re: Grammar!!!! Please....

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy7jem View Post
If you read it as it's written it sounds like some-one talking with a mouth crammed full of food
dannymills is offline  
Reply

Tags
fender strat , fender stratocaster , guitar playing , guitar tech , ibanez jem

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Jemsite forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address

IMPORTANT: You will be required to activate your account so please ensure that your email address is correct.

If you do not receive your activation check your spam folder before using the CONTACT US form (at the bottom right of each page).



Email Address:
OR

Log-in










 
Similar Searches

People searched for this, also searched for these:

what is the reason for my poor spelling/ grammar

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome