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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-04-2017, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
 
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Inverted music scores: White notes/black paper and the best way to accomplish this.

Inverted sheet music looks startlingly good! I managed to make a copy of one piece before the UPS Store copier started running out of toner (employees were involved and very helpful). White ink on black paper is what I am after and as I understand it, white ink is the problem because it is hard to work with and it is really expensive. Screen printing has been suggested by several people that I trust know what they are talking about. I wanted to run this idea by musicians who also work with other art mediums to see if there are other options, preferably an obvious one staring me right in the face!

What would be the best method of getting white music notation on black paper? I have photos of the copy I managed to make but my previous photo provider is no longer recognized on Jemsite. You can get an idea of what the result looks like by going here: https://www.jwpepper.com/scores-png/10074513.png and inverting the colors of your display.

I appreciate your help. I am currently writing scores by hand which is actually quite rewarding, but not really a solution.
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Thank you for your post. Unfortunately, the image you posted did not appear as you likely intended.

It is rather incredible! A local company can do what I want but for 5 pieces of 9" x 12" staff paper, NOT double sided, works out to be $75. That is not exactly what I want. I understand why it costs that much and it would be worth it if what I wanted screen printed was more than just staff paper, but I am thinking screen printing may not be the best solution. So I spoke to some people (in person) and decided to contact a large paper manufacturer with the same inquiry. Their response was more or less, "black paper is quite common and any local printer will be able to create what you are looking for. Try Googling printers in your area."

Believe it or not, I had Googled local printers, and non-local printers, and whether or not this paper exists anywhere in the world so I did not have to go through this rigmarole. Based off what I've found, staff paper using black paper and white ink does not exist anywhere I know where to look. The reason is the white ink. White ink is not an insurmountable problem, but it is expensive and not very common. I know that and am willing to pay for it as long as it makes sense.

So for people in the industry my question stands, what would be the best method of getting white music notation (white ink) on black paper?
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I thought I would share this. Inverting a music score (white notes/black background) in the digital domain is not difficult, but it is not necessarily intuitive. The people who can easily do it are probably not the ones who would ever think to do it. (In fact, that was a recurring theme for this project.) My goal was to create a physical copy of the inverted score. This was also not difficult, but not necessarily intuitive. When it comes to black/white printing, everything is printed the same way: black toner on white paper. In my case, the printer was printing the black background on to white paper and NOT printing the notation. This means a tremendous amount of toner is used which is why I had it done at an industrial print shop. I had what I wanted, a physical copy of an inverted score and I felt...... So, I started to experiment with color. The choices I made were purely intuitive but not random. They were also limited by the number of colors that can actually be seen when surrounded by black. Everything was colored by hand which took a long time. The score you see below is the final version. It was printed on 12"x18" cardstock, colored, has a matte finish and is mounted on 4 pieces of 3/16" Gator Board. (That is 4' (1 meter +) of music.) When I saw the final result I felt.......



The image is "vague" because I wanted to get the whole thing in one shot, I know nothing about lighting, and for the time being, I feel it gives the viewer a visual impression of the piece while obscuring certain details, primarily names of the publisher(s).

There are many reasons why I did this; some make sense, some make less sense. When people see it in person, it has an impact on them, and it does not matter if they can read music or are even musicians. If non-musicians look at this for any length of time, that is a good thing. Anyways, I just wanted to follow up.
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Nice... that looks cool can you post a larger picture? Where are you displaying this?
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Couldn't you change the black ink printer cartridge to a white one and print it normaly on a black paper sheet?
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Forgot to mention... If there's no white cartridge for your printer you could make a NEGATIVE (black background) of what you want and print it on a white sheet. You gonna spend a lot of black ink but it is doable.
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Nice... that looks cool can you post a larger picture? Where are you displaying this?
Thank you! I will need to take a better picture first, but yes, I think I can manage it. As for displaying it, I need to talk to the composer about that (which I can do) because his name is on it and he is very much alive.

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Couldn't you change the black ink printer cartridge to a white one and print it normaly on a black paper sheet?
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Forgot to mention... If there's no white cartridge for your printer you could make a NEGATIVE (black background) of what you want and print it on a white sheet. You gonna spend a lot of black ink but it is doable.
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