I recently came back to Jemsite after a few years away (joined back in 2006) and some time away from music due to various life events. It's good to be back both on the forum and in music and still see some long-time posters here still active.
However, I've noticed that the forum seems a lot quieter now than back in the day. I remember when I'd read and post on multiple threads most days, especially NGDs and the Tech forum where I posted a lot. Now there seems to be very little happening, which is a shame. What's happening - have folks left? Are we less enthusiastic about Ibanez/JEMs? Have times moved on?
Or perhaps we're all old farts who are too grown up now! Haha.
A lot of people that used to post all the time are absent as of late. Don't know if priorities have changed or just life getting in the way. Still a fair amount of activity. My biggest gripe would be trying to research stuff on here and all the pics are gone. I have to pay $2.99 a month to host pics but that is less than 1/2 the price of a Starbucks coffee to keep my pics hosted.
yeah I use to post quite a bit. Life happened and I posted less. It also seeming like a lot of the same topics over and over and over. I got tired of it. There were also some really ****tty people on here for a while or at least it seemed like it. I stopped coming to the forum and would occasionally pop in to check out the classifieds.
It's funny, many forums go through phases where there seems to be a plethora of idiots that just ruin the atmosphere - I've noticed that with other forums I visit. Don't understand why people do it - must be some very sad people out there with too much time on their hands & not enough brains. I was away for quite a bit so I must've missed that here.
There are still a few interesting threads cropping up here and there which is encouraging, and the atmosphere here seems pretty civil. One of the worst forums I visit is a Pilots' forum. Even accounting for the general arrogance that many pilots have it is a pretty vile place. On the other hand a car forum I visit is always very civil and helpful - like here!
I think the internet has changed the way people react to each other, for the worse. Folk act a differnt way hiding behind a keyboard and monitor to what they would face-to-face. I am on FB but tend to avoid it these days - too much "look at me! look at me! look at me!", selfies of daft women on nights out trying to pose as models (yawn), folk arguing about politics (yawn), unfunny and offensive "jokes" and memes, folk having public meltdowns and screaming for attention (yawn), needless airing of every single personal detail in public (what I had for breakfast, what I'm up to at work, new car I've bought, just bought a can of beans at supermarket, have farted 35 times today including a catastrophic shart that contained the onions from last nights curry, etc. etc. etc.) - since turning 30 it's really turned me off. Now I have a handful of forums that I visit plus a couple of weather websites, and that's about all I do now on the internet - can't be bothered with the rest. Minor rant over...!
I use FB as a way to keep on contact with family and famous musicians that I got to meet and keep in touch with them (i.e. the guys from the English band Power Quest).
6speedonline is the only other forum I actually am interested in enough to read and post and it's probably one of the most civil and funny places to hang with alot of really smart and interesting people that bear no animosity to anybody. I'm not sure it's "kept" that way, I've never seen anybody post anything idiotic or inflammatory, never seen anybody warned of a suspension, there just seems no reason. The truly rich don't act condescending to those of us that aren't, it's just a pleasant place with members passionate about the same thing. This may just be in the sub forum of the mark we all have and the Ferrari section could be a bunch of pompous jackwads, but I've never seen it
A lot of forum traffic across the board (no pun intended) seemed to have died out with things like Instagram and Facebook. I think off-topic and random conversations have moved to those, where forums are now being utilized for their more core purpose (original intent of hobby/content).
I do remember 10 years ago shooting the **** on here at night, and it seemed to be very busy, with much more random content. There are always going to be a few bad apples, but for the most part almost all of the forums I've been on have regulated this pretty well.
I have to say I miss bugging Rich to death until he forces me to buy something.
It has gotten quiet here in recent years - this site was in need of repair and updating but by the time they actually updated it a lot of the guys had already gone =( The main thing that kept me coming here was to chat about hockey with my buddy Mike
Facebook has value but is especially overloaded with self-promoters & drama sponges. Yawn. Many times i read a Jemsite post or reply (via email) and just don't consider posting due to the nature of how Rich replies It seems like the audience here has collectively embraced being an echo-chamber which impacts things for sure (good & bad). Enjoy the weekend!
Valuable or not, that's where the people are. As pointed out above, the Ibanez-related Facebook groups are pretty active.
I wouldn't discount the difficulty of posting pictures to a forum compared with Facebook or Instagram. Point your phone at it, click a picture and post it. Or copy and paste pictures from around the internet, post videos, etc. Interest forums are totally anachronistic, which is unfortunate because when this one ultimately goes away, it's going to take tons of great info with it.
^ i literally have no idea of what you posted actually meant. But speaking of guns if you ever want to man up and go break some Clays @ Lehigh Valley lemme know. it's equal distance i believe.
My typical trigger is with Ibanez haters hattin, not that I'm a zealot and believe they can do no wrong and I'll call them out whenever I feel it's justified. But when it's not, you're playing with the trigger
I don't have any skeet guns. Well, I have a SxS that was handed down that's probably from the 20's, but I'd prefer an OU less than 50 years old
My typical trigger is with Ibanez haters hattin, not that I'm a zealot and believe they can do no wrong and I'll call them out whenever I feel it's justified. But when it's not, you're playing with the trigger
You're unfairly branding scrutinization as "hating". Done exactly as you said - when you feel it's justified. Thing is your justification has become automated ... emotionally fueled by rash judgements. Literally a "perception" becomes (an alternate) "reality". Fascinating though!
LOL. I have spares... Italian autoloaders have 12GA/28" (hunting/trap/skeet/sporting), 12GA/30" (trap) & 20GA/26" (awesome for sporting clays or skeet) all with swap able chokes. Can possibly find/borrow an OU 12GA but i would recommend it... would really beat up (bruise) your shoulder if you're new to it and did 50 - nevermind 100 - shots.
Lehigh has trap + sporting clay (crossers & distance) but if you can drive to Old Bridge NJ we can do sporting clays @ a private club. Would be a good reintro if you haven't broken clays in a while. Just need to bring birds & shells. See if the location below is drivable the range is a few minutes drive in the woods on a gravel road. Bagel Boy, 2329 Highway 516, Old Bridge, NJ 08857
I only shot skeet on a cruise once, I missed 1 in 20, but my eyes were alot better than. I'm still trying to figure out how to see pistol sights and the target at the same time and I seem to do better without glassed so I can see the sights and just shoot at the fuzzy object
I only shot skeet on a cruise once, I missed 1 in 20, but my eyes were alot better than. I'm still trying to figure out how to see pistol sights and the target at the same time and I seem to do better without glassed so I can see the sights and just shoot at the fuzzy object
As you know human eyes have only one focal plane and shooting a pistol with iron sights involves 3 planes (rear sight, front sight & target) only one of which (and should) be in focus.
That said a red dot sight or laser (rail mount) would allow doing what you want, looking at the target (distant focal plane) superimposing the dot over the target.
For sure. I'm sure Facebook is very active for just about any type of group. Just like Burger King is pretty popular for hamburgers. Should all other burger joints close shop?
I wouldn't discount the difficulty of posting pictures to a forum compared with Facebook or Instagram. Point your phone at it, click a picture and post it. Or copy and paste pictures from around the internet, post videos, etc. Interest forums are totally anachronistic, which is unfortunate because when this one ultimately goes away, it's going to take tons of great info with it.
Absolutely. Between apple and facebook dumb'ing down users/devices & the internet (walled garden approach aol 2.0 i'll call it) the masses (self-absorbed young participants posting selfies & food pics and senior participants posting pet photos) will surely follow.
So what is the problem? That a forum in 2017 is not more mainstream than Facebook? Some of you recently argued "Prestige" is easy enough to look-up and learn what it is from google. You can't have it both ways.
You're reading me wrong. I'm not "blaming" anyone for taking the path of least resistance. FB is easy as you said and it fits today's society.
Forums vs social media is sorta a moot discussion in terms of long term predictions. Social will have billions of users a click away but has backlash, privacy issues & unpredictability. Will snapchat really exist outside a Chinese telco in 4 years for example? How much SELF PROMOTION can people take on social media before they pull back, withdraw or walk away? Will work/governments screen social media limiting participation? Either way for now social media is easy/good enough (least common denominator).
But... web forum hosting is cheaper than ever and low-cost revenue for web page views is not exactly difficult in scale. Why would forums disappear? That I'm not following at all.
How much SELF PROMOTION can people take on social media before they pull back, withdraw or walk away? Will work/governments screen social media limiting participation? Either way for now social media is easy/good enough (least common denominator).
I quit Facebook in 2012, or roughly around the time of the IPO. I enjoyed Facebook for the brief time when only college students were allowed to join. The self-promotion combined with unsolicited opinions and general negativity about pretty much everything really started to become depressing. So I left. There are many people that will never hold political office because of Facebook.
For me, not visiting is a direct result of unanswered posts. Why bother posting if no one is going to respond. Crickets chirping. There are other forums where the views to reply ratio is much better, and getting no replies to a post is as bad as it can get. I love Ibbies. I love gear. I love playing music and very rarely, posting it, but if the sound of crickets chirping is all I can get here, then I'll take my marbles and go home. Later.
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To stay briefly on topic lol I think part of what happened was the internet just continued to fragment and subdivide. I understand Facebook has been a factor here too, but I remember back in the day I started posting at Jemsite because it was a great resource for Satriani guitars, and then as I got into seven strings, for seven string guitars as well. Over time, though, first sevenstring.org launched and pulled a lot of the then-regulars in the seven string forum (myself included, I ended up a moderator over there) over there, and then a bunch of that crew split off after we sold the site and launched metalguitarist.org. I know Ibanez now has a forum of their own, I think Vai still has a forum (I honestly haven't looked in ages), I know there used to be a Satriani unofficial fan forum (no clue if it's still active, I did post there for a while though), etc etc etc.
This place used to be one of the best knowledge sources on the internet for a HUGE array of topics. A lot of those topics now have their own dedicated forums. As a guy who still owns a couple Ibanez guitars but spends most of his playtime on a couple Fenders or Suhrs these days, who was never THAT into Vai or Jems, and never really got the guitar collecting thing, I mostly still post here for the community and because I've known a couple of you guys over the 'net for damned near 20 years now.
Up! Other pioneers must be very busy with their gigs.
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