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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-26-2016, 07:17 AM Thread Starter
 
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Long vibrating floyd rose

Hey Guys,

I am not sure that is the right section for my post but here it is :

I just got a new RG550 with the lo pro edge vibrato and when I make it vibrating (pull it a bit and release it directly ) this guitar has a very very very veeeeeeeeeeery long and clear vibrating note and that is sooooooooooo cool, I love it

I am wondering why this guitar could have this vibration during that long and all of my other jem or jpm doesn't ...

It may be because of the springs ? Coud anyone know how I can get that to all my guitars ?

Thanks a lot from Belgium
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-26-2016, 12:10 PM
 
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Re: Long vibrating floyd rose

There is probably a lot of different things that help it.

But, I remember that Satriani, who does not like flutter, said once that Ibanez and him experimented with different springs to avoid it, ( end he develop fixed bridge JS for same reason, and because of left hand vibrato that floating bridge absorb slightly ), so springs must have bigger part in it, and probably tremolo arm must have tight joint to prolong flutter and to not absorb it.
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Re: Long vibrating floyd rose

Might be worth doing a forum search for "flutter" by title.

Assuming new/good strings and trem angle setup correctly (90-degrees)...

Things to check: tight fit of the arm (bushings) & armholder (screwed into baseplate), studs locked (set screw) and burr-free to accept a clean knife-edge on baseplate. A variable you can change to some degree is the (3) springs... too strong a spring and it will decrease flutter. 10 springs might have different pulls. I used to stretch the string for a few days (to drop pitch and stretch springs if needed) but you can file the outside of a spring to lessen it's pull permanently ... glen
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-28-2016, 05:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Long vibrating floyd rose

thank you for your replies...

The guitar is well set up the the tremolo has the right angle... all seems nice but the guitar doesn't flutter...

I am going to try to change the 3 springs with new ones
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Re: Long vibrating floyd rose

I would think that better flutter will have used and 'broken in' strings then new.
But I would like to hear your experience after changing springs.
If it is possible, try also 2 spring configuration.
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Re: Long vibrating floyd rose

Today I have took another RG that has a very nice flutter and change the springs with the one that doesn't have any... after I change the result was the same... still not flutter !! 2 springs also no flutter

So now I really don't know what I can do... I am going to ask a guy that repair guitars next to me and see if he can find solution.

I will keep you informed
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Re: Long vibrating floyd rose

One more thing:
is your bridge at proper angle like on guitar that have flutter?
( You probably now that it is not surface of bridge that needs to be parallel with surface.
It is insert line that needs to be parallel with top of guitar. )

Do you have same type of bridge on guitars with bad and with good flutter?
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Re: Long vibrating floyd rose

Yeah the bridges are the same and well set up ... another guy told me that the problem should come from the cutter... ( the part of the tremolo that touch the screw on the body ) if that parts are not sharp enough it won't flutter...

So I am going to remove the tremolo and check it later today.
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