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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 04-12-2007, 05:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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New Laptop Advice Anyone?

I'm so excited b/c I've bought a new Acer laptop with Vista program; I feel so high-tech now. My last and first computer was old with ME in it. I was having troubles sending my resumes to job-hunters.

Does anyone have any advice on how to maintain drive space? I'm not super computer savvy. I don't really understand C drive versus D drive, but I don't seem to have that much space left (19GB out of 34GB) on C drive and all sorts of space available on D drive. Can I transport some things over to D drive? Or am I a village idiot for thinking I can do this? I would like to get a printer, but space is my concern these days. I know with a laptop I need to be more aware of this.

I also don't quite get the external drives that you can buy. Does that add to your C drive space? I'm gathering that software and Microsoft Vista programs are all in C drive. HELLP ME, PLEASE!!!

I don't do much down-loading to begin with. I have put the new version of Microsoft Office in here, and Yahoo IM (without Yahoo toolbar). I'd appreciate any advice you guys/gals could offer me.
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Im far from a computer expert, but...

usually i use the D drive for movies, music, photos etc, and the C drive for day to day applications etc.

If I ever need to re-install the operating system, you can leave the D drive untouched and do a clean wipe on the C drive without losing your files. OR, you can very quickly back up all your music and movies if you get a new computer, just by copying the whole contents of the D drive.
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What exactly does a clean-wipe do, Voodoo? Just take out misc. junk? It doesn't touch the important part of the programs does it?
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What exactly does a clean-wipe do, Voodoo? Just take out misc. junk? It doesn't touch the important part of the programs does it?
It just erases everything on the C drive and puts the computer back as though you had just bought it - it might sound radical, but sometimes after a couple of years your computer gets clogged up with all sorts of crap - unwanted programs running in the background, trojans, etc. You can clean it up with various methods, but sometimes a fresh start does the best trick.

An advantage of having a partitioned hard drive is that you can tell windows to leave the D drive alone when it is doing the re-install. So you can keep whatever you have on there (music etc)
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It just erases everything on the C drive and puts the computer back as though you had just bought it - it might sound radical, but sometimes after a couple of years your computer gets clogged up with all sorts of crap - unwanted programs running in the background, trojans, etc. You can clean it up with various methods, but sometimes a fresh start does the best trick.

An advantage of having a partitioned hard drive is that you can tell windows to leave the D drive alone when it is doing the re-install. So you can keep whatever you have on there (music etc)
Well, I don't believe I will be clean-wiping yet. I just bought this, but that is useful to know. I like to really get my mileage out of computers. So it puts it back to factory settings is what I gather. Best Buy installed a trial period on-line back-up that I may remove. I don't know if I would really use this feature, and it is taking up space. It is free for 3 months then costs $10/month after.
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WHAA! how do you live with that hd space i have 500gb and it's still not enough. Clean wipes would work, you should backup all files you want to keep though, and if its brand new you won't need to do one without any problems. Also, I hate the geek squad at best buy they don't know crap they are all trained in ways to get the most money out of you. Now i think there is a free backup program that i've used in the past on computers i've worked on in my job but the name slips my mind. With smallest drives i usually use those for operating systems and also programs that aren't giant but are one's i know I use a lot. Then whenever you do cleansweeps you can leave the small drive alone and just get rid of the crap on the big drive. hope this helps a little
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(Hopefully I can say this without sounding like a super geek)

Your C drive is your main/primary drive. It's where Windows and your programs get installed. It's also where all your files are saved by default. While it's not recommended that you move your programs from your C drive to your D drive. What you can do is move all your normal files over.

What I mean is that you can create a new folder in your D drive and then move everything in your "my documents" folder over.

Do you take lots of photo's?? If you do, it's likely that your photos are taking up most of the space. I've had clients take up to 200+GB's worth of photos and seeing that they're not planning to do any large format (poster) printing, resizing all their photos saved them 199.3GB's!!

Feel free to bug me via PM or MSN if you have any more questions.

PS. Don't bother with the backup programs as they DON'T SAVE SPACE!! They only provide a backup just in case your system decides to call it quits.
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Thanks for the advice buddroyce. Problem is I haven't really even saved anything yet. No pics at all. Like I said earlier I did download Microsoft Office 2007, that was a must. I can remove Best Buy's On-line Back-up, but that didn't seem to be taking up a lot of space anyways. I'm realizing that Yahoo messanger and Adobe Reader are taking up a lot of space, but the Adobe Reader I am sure is a must. I do have another computer, so I could part with Yahoo Messenger on here if I have too.

I don't know if I need CyberLink PowerProducer. I don't plan on making any movies and this is taking up 189MB. It seems to be the most of anything.

I'm curious why it is not recommended to move programs over to D drive? Can I move the Geek Squad On-line back-up to D drive? Guess I don't really understand D drive.
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34GB is bare bones for a C system drive and Vista.

what size is the D drive?

I assume you have E for CD/DVD too.

The D drive might be your "backup or system" drive for Acer. I've seen XP and Vista boxes coming like this. You pretty much MUST install programs on C:\program files as defined by Microsoft in XP and Vista. It's for good reason.

i have pretty much been a "disc" partitioner, but the problem nowadays is Windows requires alot of space as do programs you install. I'd partition a 250-300GB drdive, not one that is smaller. If a drive fails you lose both partitions so that is moot. I would also partition for network security, but not on a laptop with small drive (60-120GB i consider small). You don't want to fill a drive, otherwise you can't defrag it (vista can be set to auto defrag). Depending on the size of the D partition i'd either use that for all Data - as mentioned above - or consider using Partition Magic to combine C and D into one large drive which would waste less space.

another source of confusion is "my documents" defaults to C adn if you have multiple logins it sort shoehorns files to C drive by default. This can be changed, but

ps - i always keep "windows system restore" set to the max space as i have found that feature to be very helpful for both experienced and newbies users.
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Is this an ample amount of memory? I have been thinking about getting a laptop similar to this one, but not sure if I should pop the extra money for 1024MB as opposed to 512MB. The one I was looking at was a Compaq with 80GB hard drive. I need it for resume sending and misc. writing. Maybe some internet. I'm not into software downloading; not a gamer. I have ME 2000 and it sucks rat turds.

I need to buy something, but leary of Vista, esp. after reading Jim's posts. Why couldn't they leave XP alone? Uuuuuggggghhhhh!
That's cool, Guitar_Chick. So did you end up getting 1024MB?

Those Acers look cool, eh? I'm very happy with mine.

I'm surely going to double my RAM. My computer is having trouble keeping up with all the things I have it do. Sometimes I've got the internet up, I'm watching a movie and then doing things on top of that at the same time. So my computer sometimes really goes in slowmotion. I also want to use my computer for video editing in the future, and I'd like things to go smoothly.

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very first thing i do when i get a new machine is format the drive so only the O/S and current updates are installed. from there i defrag the machine and install only the apps i will be working with, then defrag again. not sure if you have the capability or time to do that but that will solve some issues. you won't use most of the mickey mouse garbage that comes pre-loaded!

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Yo Chick,

How much did BB charge you to format the laptop??? I really get annoyed when those people think they're doing you a favor by partitioning the hdd. Partitioning works when you have a very large hard drive.

Most laptops these days come with a 60-80gb hard drive on average. So, why partition it? The biggest hard drive I've seen for a laptop so far is 100-160Gb. Software code has gotten more and more complex so that demands huge lines of code. I'm not 100% sure about this but, I think Vista alone requires over 3Gb of space, and that's just the Operating System.

My advice to you would be to find the system restore cd that your computer came with the laptop. Pop it in, and when the windows install commences, reformat the hard drive to have one main partition (C Drive). That way, you won't have to worry about maintaining 2 separate drives.

As far as a removable drive is concerned, it is a good idea to have it if you're going to store lots of different media (pictures, movies, porn, etc.). Removable drives are nice to have because they are "hot swappable", meaning that they can be plugged in and out from almost any computer. What they basically are is an internal hard drive with an enclosure that has a usb or firewire port in the back of the enclosure so you can plug them into your pc. As far as those go, you can even get a 1Tb external hard drive but, that's going to cost you a pretty penny.

So bottom line, use the restore cd to reinstall windows and reformat the hard drive to have only one partition.

I hope everything works out for you.

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That's cool, Guitar_Chick. So did you end up getting 1024MB?

Those Acers look cool, eh? I'm very happy with mine.

I'm surely going to double my RAM. My computer is having trouble keeping up with all the things I have it do. Sometimes I've got the internet up, I'm watching a movie and then doing things on top of that at the same time. So my computer sometimes really goes in slowmotion. I also want to use my computer for video editing in the future, and I'd like things to go smoothly.

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I am totally loving my new Acer laptop. I can sit on the couch and type without being plugged in to a wall. The portability is a dream for me. I still have my desktop too, so I have the best of both worlds.

I bought a 60GB external hard-drive and new printer the other day. The last printer I bought was a Deskjet 693C back in 1995. They sure have come a long ways. I was p.o.'d to find out that the USB cord does not come with it, and it is expensive.

One thing I'm not a fan of with the desk top is the built in mouse. It really slows things down. I got a free wireless Rocketfish mouse when I bought Office 2007. I can't get the hang of the finger-pad mouse.

I feel like such a computer nerd now. I even went to Starbucks with it the other day. Now I feel like somebody important. I couldn't get on-line though cause I don't have T-mobile.
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I also love the moniter too, Alwin. And Vista, not a problem; I'm catching on quickly.
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34GB is bare bones for a C system drive and Vista.
I assume you have E for CD/DVD too.
Yes, I do. Does this mean I can play DVD movies on it? That is awesome.

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You don't want to fill a drive, otherwise you can't defrag it (vista can be set to auto defrag). Depending on the size of the D partition i'd either use that for all Data - as mentioned above - or consider using Partition Magic to combine C and D into one large drive which would waste less space.
Glen, what is defragging? I have heard the term before. This doesn't change saved settings and files does it? Does this just remove the junk in the system? Can you tell me more about this Partition Magic? I like the sound of it. You sound like you really know computers.

I really am liking my new computer. I've never had a laptop before.

Also, can you tell me how to respond to multiple quotes from different users in 1 reply post? I've figured out obviously how to do this with one user, but having problems with the other.
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