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Shippng to London....advice?

Hi all,

It looks like my purple ice swirl will be headed east over the pond to "Merry Ole'".

The buyer and I have decided it best to send the guitar dis-assembled. Of course I'll be giving it the best packing possible.

My questions center more around the UK's import or VAT taxes. The buyer is a great guy that, if I can, I would like to save as much as possible on these taxes while keeping both of our interests protected. So here goes:

- Would it be more efficient to send the entire guitar in one box- fully insured, or two boxes (neck and body separate) both insured for half the amount?

- Does UK customs hold an instrument for any prolonged period of time in a questionable environment?

- is there anything you can think of that will help both of us remain protected, the guitar remain exactly as I ship it, and to save the buyer some coin in the process?
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- Would it be more efficient to send the entire guitar in one box- fully insured, or two boxes (neck and body separate) both insured for half the amount?

No - duty and taxes will still be levied on the full cost anyway and the thresholds are low enough that things like Blurays get picked up let alone guitars.

- Does UK customs hold an instrument for any prolonged period of time in a questionable environment?

No, clearance is usually quick and if you use a courier (eg Fedex) they will clear it through themselves.

- is there anything you can think of that will help both of us remain protected, the guitar remain exactly as I ship it, and to save the buyer some coin in the process?

No, the only way to get round the duty/tax question is to under declare which is of course a) illegal and b) will mean you have to under insure and so risk loss.
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- Would it be more efficient to send the entire guitar in one box- fully insured, or two boxes (neck and body separate) both insured for half the amount?

No - duty and taxes will still be levied on the full cost anyway and the thresholds are low enough that things like Blurays get picked up let alone guitars.

- Does UK customs hold an instrument for any prolonged period of time in a questionable environment?

No, clearance is usually quick and if you use a courier (eg Fedex) they will clear it through themselves.

- is there anything you can think of that will help both of us remain protected, the guitar remain exactly as I ship it, and to save the buyer some coin in the process?

No, the only way to get round the duty/tax question is to under declare which is of course a) illegal and b) will mean you have to under insure and so risk loss.
Thanks Dave, I certainly want to do this above board. I've just never shipped anything other than small parts to the UK before. I have shipped a couple of guitars to AU and never had a problem, but I've heard before that AU and UK have very little in common when it comes to taxes and procedures.
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Australia has a $1000 threshold, UK has a £15 threshold. That's the big difference :-)
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That's brutal.......... I guess the Crown has to get it's "fair" share.......
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip-off_Britain
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Really? How do they justify it? Or maybe they don't justify it..... they just say "screw you" knowing you'll pay it to get the product you want.
They justify it to pay for what is left of our state services, like free healthcare and what's left of state pensions for the elderly
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The vat rate and handling charges are criminal over here and that's why I have no qualms when getting things delivered from the US at a lowered package value.
The bastards even charge vat on the shipping.
you are not alone, here in indonesia :

musical instrument , guitar : import duty : 10%
luxury goods tax ( yeah... electric guitar is luxury goods ) : 20%
VAT : 10 %
Income tax : 7.5% ( personal) 2.5% ( company).
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Really? How do they justify it? Or maybe they don't justify it..... they just say "screw you" knowing you'll pay it to get the product you want.
Read this http://www.moneysupermarket.com/comm...rge-10938.aspx

This is just one of the hoops you have to jump through...it really is criminal !
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I just answered but for some reason my post is v above your last post v
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The vat rate and handling charges are criminal over here and that's why I have no qualms when getting things delivered from the US at a lowered package value.
The bastards even charge vat on the shipping.
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The vat rate and handling charges are criminal over here and that's why I have no qualms when getting things delivered from the US at a lowered package value.
The bastards even charge vat on the shipping.
Really? How do they justify it? Or maybe they don't justify it..... they just say "screw you" knowing you'll pay it to get the product you want.
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Are you shipping that guitar minus a case Ryc??

I've shipped multi thousand $$$ J Customs into the UK
from the States and had no choice but to declare lower
value on them i.e $400 on a $3000 J Custom. Never had
a problem. I still had to pay approx £80 on duties but there
was no way I was gonna pay the ridiculous 23.5% import duty.

I obviously did this at my own risk. If you and the seller are in agreement
I'd ship the neck separate, declare say $50, ship the rest as a body/parts
for $100.
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Are you shipping that guitar minus a case Ryc??

I've shipped multi thousand $$$ J Customs into the UK
from the States and had no choice but to declare lower
value on them i.e $400 on a $3000 J Custom. Never had
a problem. I still had to pay approx £80 on duties but there
was no way I was gonna pay the ridiculous 23.5% import duty.

I obviously did this at my own risk. If you and the seller are in agreement
I'd ship the neck separate, declare say $50, ship the rest as a body/parts
for $100.
I am shipping minus the case. The buyer has looked at this thread. I think it scared the hell out of him (and rightfully so). He's been working in OZ for a while now. Were thinking we might ship it there instead...... I haven't heard back from him yet to confirm that.
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I am shipping minus the case. The buyer has looked at this thread. I think it scared the hell out of him (and rightfully so). He's been working in OZ for a while now. Were thinking we might ship it there instead...... I haven't heard back from him yet to confirm that.
Yeah it's best if both parties are in agreement.

I got sellers from USA to just mark J Customs
as 'Ibanez RG Series'....boom.. no bother at all.
Shipping company paid the duty and I paid them.
UK customs have been a breeze for me to get guitars in through.
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