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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-09-2010, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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im just curious to see if many players think learning scales are important i dont im more of marty friedman player i think lots of people get to caught up in learning scales and i just like to come up with patterns on my own now i know people might think i am an idiot but george lynch also say's that he can't show someone a scale if he had a "gun pointed at his head" again im just curious to see what most people think and if they can give a reason why learning scales is important
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 01:19 AM
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If you take a look at Marty's old "melodic control" tutorial DVD, you'll find that you're not quite as much a Marty Friedman player as you thought then
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If you take a look at Marty's old "melodic control" tutorial DVD, you'll find that you're not quite as much a Marty Friedman player as you thought then
i have seen his one video where he does talk allot about scales but it was older than this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSaTAGsIBEI and if you can find a newer video of marty then i will just say that im more of a george lynch player
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Ah right, because of the CIA mindwipe that removed all his knowledge of scales and theory...
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Ah right, because of the CIA mindwipe that removed all his knowledge of scales and theory...
not what im saying at all im saying he knows the scales but he thinks coming up patterns on his own is more important to his playing but that did make me lol
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ol frank loved the scales!
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Scales are a very important thing to learn, especially for playing lead. Learn all the modes.
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im just curious to see if many players think learning scales are important i dont im more of marty friedman player i think lots of people get to caught up in learning scales and i just like to come up with patterns on my own now i know people might think i am an idiot but george lynch also say's that he can't show someone a scale if he had a "gun pointed at his head" again im just curious to see what most people think and if they can give a reason why learning scales is important
Scales aren't the most important thing to me. Full stops and other punctuation however, are far more important!
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Scales are a very important thing to learn, especially for playing lead. Learn all the modes.

Pretty much what he said
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Why not learn them? them patterns that you 'make up' in one form or another derrive from *insert scale here* you just dont know it. If you learn them you would be able to make them patterns faster AND understand why and what to play them with...thats what i reckon anyway
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Why not learn them? them patterns that you 'make up' in one form or another derrive from *insert scale here* you just dont know it. If you learn them you would be able to make them patterns faster AND understand why and what to play them with...thats what i reckon anyway
oh i know that paterns i come up with are from scales but when i learn a scale and i play it i feel like im just on a set track i know about modes and it still didn't help its hard for me to be creative when i learn a scale
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I think the point Marty's trying to make in the video is that learning scales should not be in a "standardized" kind of way, because it implies that certain scales work only on specific situations, limiting one's creativity. Additionally, learning scale patterns through ear rather than fretboard positions is better because it frees you from having to subconsciously "stay within the shape" of particular positions, and hence allows freer musical improvisations.
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i think knowing my scales helps me hit my target notes, even if they are only good in certain situations. If i hear someone play a progression in A minor i know i can play amount of notes that are "safe".....whether or not im following a scale or not.

I think they help you learn why certain notes work in situations and why others dont, but to me they are more of guidelines than anything. Having said that there have been times where i have been stumped trying to improv a solo over something my other guitar player in my band writes and i look it up later and hes playing riffs in Bb harmonic minor LOL in that case following a scale works nicely (since i have never improved anything in such an odd key)
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I think knowing scales helps me be more creative because I know where to play and where I can play and I can make more patterns out of knowing those things.
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