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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2001, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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Action height - does mine need adjusting?

lo all.

ok, i got me jem a lil while back. the action is a bit higher than me strat which i had b4, and its beginning to bug me! so i was wondering if i could comopaire with some of u guys.
  • at 1st fret just under 2mm from the fret board to the bottom of the string
  • at 12 about 3.5mm
  • at 24 this dont really count cos of scallops its 5mm

is this higher than most peoples? what are the pros and cons of high and low?

and how would i go about lowering the action on this
??


cheers

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2001, 07:51 PM
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Action is measured from the *top* of the fret to the *bottom* of the string, I'd remeasure if you're looking for responces.
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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2001, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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ammendments:

1st fret 1mm

12th jus under 2mm

24th 2.5mm
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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2001, 09:49 PM
 
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That is high, my guitars all measure just under 1mm at the 12th fret and just over 1mm at the 24th fret. *The action is very close to the same all along the neck. *You may need to do a slight neck adjustment to achieve this, but 2mm at the 12th fret is very high. *One thing you may run into is the trem sitting to far in the body, and not being able to pull up, or even not being able to dive very far. *If that happens, you will have to remove the neck, and put a shim in it to tip it back a little further. *This allows you to raise the trem, but keep the action lower. *make sure the neck is straight, if anything it *should have the slightest of forward bows to it. *NEVER a back bow or you'll have fret buzz constantly, to create a forward bow, you need to loosen the truss rod off slightly. *Play the guitar measure the action and adjust it until you are happy.

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And don't forget to check out the tech section here. It tells you all you need to know plus a little more
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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-01-2002, 04:11 PM Thread Starter
 
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yer i recon its a bit high. those are quite rough measurements, tomorrow im getting som calipers so i can give a much more accurate measurement


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action height is personal preference.
if it feels good, play it. *I like a higher action than most.
the action that most people like, i think is dreadful - i can't grab onto any strings to bend them - they just slide off.

Just make sure that once you find the right height for YOU, lock down your trem posts. *There's more about this in he tech section.

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Hi,
I'm still learning to correctly adjust my Jem and I was taken abash by littlegreenman answer which stated that his strings were roughly 1mm at both the 12 and 24 frets?

Is it possible to have such a low action WITHOUT buzz on a Jem? I mean no perceptible buzz even not amplify?

Any of you concerned about buzz with no amp that are not too perceptible when amplified or are you all setting up for no buzz???

Thanks for any clarification. Before seeing this post I had my action quite high (about 3.5 mm at the 24 fret and 3mm at the 12 frets to avoid any buzz...) after reading it I spent quite a while to lower it *to 1.7 mm at 24 and 1.5 at the 12 fret but this buzz like crazy. Am I missing something or is it normal.

The Tech section is great but it doesn't provide any idea about how low the action can be adjusted without buzz on a Jem.


Thanks for any insights...

JFT

P.S. My measurements are from top of the fret to bottom of the strings

(Edited by JFT at 9:15 pm on Jan. 1, 2002)
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LGM's measurements sound like high E measurements to me, but it is possibly to take the low side that low. IMO it chokes the strings so much tone suffers immensely. On a Jem 2 - 2.5 low E at the 24th is pretty standard. If it's too buzzy at this height I'd suggest a string brand change to Markleys or DR's as they are much less buzzy strings than say D'Addario's.
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it was high E, sorry for not being clear
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Thanks for the info! I'll try that.

I'm currently using DM Blue Steel strings .009-.042

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Those are about as buzz free a set as you'll get.
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