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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 08-01-2004, 09:12 PM Thread Starter
 
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Any Jems with one-piece necks?

Have there ever been (or are there plans for future) Jems with one-piece necks instead of the three-piece ones that all mine have? My oldest Jem, a 777DY, is starting to have problems at the scarf joint where the main piece of the neck meets the headstock. I'm afraid that with continued use of my newer ones, the same thing might happen to them. It seems to me that a one-piece neck would be more resistant to punishment like that. So are there any, or would I have to get a custom neck fitted? Thanks very much!
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Re: Any Jems with one-piece necks?

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Have there ever been (or are there plans for future) Jems with one-piece necks instead of the three-piece ones that all mine have? My oldest Jem, a 777DY, is starting to have problems at the scarf joint where the main piece of the neck meets the headstock. I'm afraid that with continued use of my newer ones, the same thing might happen to them. It seems to me that a one-piece neck would be more resistant to punishment like that. So are there any, or would I have to get a custom neck fitted? Thanks very much!
Here: http://jemsite.com/axes/htm_features/spec.htm

Seems like there's quite a few JEMs with one-piece necks...
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Based on this photo from the JEM "archives", I would say there is a major flaw in that spec list.........

http://jemsite.com/axes/model/jem7vwh2.htm

Looks like that 7VWH has a scarf joint, which means it's NOT a 1-piece maple neck.
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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 08-07-2004, 05:19 AM
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7Vs have one piece necks - fingerboard and headstock don't count.
7Ds have 3 piece necks (bubinga stripe) - again fingerboard and headstock don't count.

Otherwise if you count all the pieces of wood on the neck the 7V does have 3 piece neck and the 7D has 5 but Ibanez don't count them, so...................

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Based on this photo from the JEM "archives", I would say there is a major flaw in that spec list.........

http://jemsite.com/axes/model/jem7vwh2.htm

Looks like that 7VWH has a scarf joint, which means it's NOT a 1-piece maple neck.
By definition the neck is just the rear surface of the neck, the headstock is a separate piece like the body. They are one piece necks.

One piece neck and integral headstock construction are 2 different things
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Based on this photo from the JEM "archives", I would say there is a major flaw in that spec list.........

http://jemsite.com/axes/model/jem7vwh2.htm

Looks like that 7VWH has a scarf joint, which means it's NOT a 1-piece maple neck.
By definition the neck is just the rear surface of the neck, the headstock is a separate piece like the body. They are one piece necks.

One piece neck and integral headstock construction are 2 different things
That's a very different understanding of the term "one-piece neck" than the majority of the MI industry uses though; with most companies, a one-piece neck means that the neck, headstock, and fingerboard are all comprised from the same piece of wood-- most always maple. This is the construction method used on vintage '50s Fenders.
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Fenders don't have an angled headstock, thus, no need for a seperate piece.
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What's a Fender?
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The guy's over at http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html should be able to help you out with that question mate, lol :P
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Fenders don't have an angled headstock, thus, no need for a seperate piece.
I'm not really criticising Ibanez's construction methods but ESP have 13 degrees angled headstocks on their M series guitars and a chunky volute - all made from 1 piece of maple.
Makes you feel secure knowing that paying that much money for a Japanese made guitar is justified by the quality of product you are getting.
Still - with the glue bonds being stronger than the actual wood, I'm sure that 10/10 times it will be the locking nut area that will break and not the glued area but it's still nice to see one piece of maple going all the way to the tuners.

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M series ESP. 3 piece

http://www.espguitars.com/ltd_m.htm
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Rich, don't confuse mediocre Korean made LTD guitars with the real deal.

http://www.espguitars.com/esp_standard.htm

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You said M series, i didn't, and not one of those sopecifically says 1 piece, and when it's specific it says 3 piece.
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M series ESP. 3 piece
Sure you did. :P
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